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Re: Project 1800's
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2024, 06:30:40 PM »
Melavah Malka will have to do...
Just an addendum to my GGF the shochets story.
I mentioned this thread to my mother, and she added some more details and a...
Family was originaly from Ulinov? which at the time was Poland, but I think today is Ukraine, fled that at some point,  we think some of that family was in the US inthe 1900s or teens, but we know that the GGF Avrohom was in Vienna around WWI and got married there. Had a 2-3 kids there, just after WWI Avrohom traveled to the Us for parnassa. His wife made him take their oldest child(ren... not clear if he took more than one), so he would realize how much he needed her and work to bring her over and not dissappear and leave her an aguna as was known to happen... after a small number of years he was able to bring her over.
They were living in the boonies somewhere, not clear if it was the finger lakes, thousand islands, or both... and he had a circuit where he traveled from hamlet to hamlet shechting for the few Yidden who needed it, horse and buggy in summer, horse drawn sleigh in winter.
One winter the sleigh turned over and  he was quite seriously injured. He needed to wear some sort of body cast for the rest of his life, and could no longer shecht. No parnasa in the boonies... They ended up moving to the Bronx, where he opened up some sort of seforim or judaica store, which cant have been much of a parnassa in those days...
When my father was sitting shiva for his father, Rav Zevulun Charlap told him that he remembered that when my GGF Avrohom was niftar, (70is years ago) he left a mitaso sheleima which was something that many rabbonim could not boast of.
One of my sisters commented that when he had his accident it must have seemed like the end of the world to him, his wife... but what would have been with them if they stayed living in the boonies with no kehila, no chinuch... would they even have one frum child? His accident was the Hatzalah of his scores of descendants who afaik are still all frum today

nice!

and thanks for having a conversation with your mother, they know so much we just have to ask nicely.

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Re: Project 1800's
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2024, 03:19:51 AM »
nice!

and thanks for having a conversation with your mother, they know so much we just have to ask nicely.
And it's not even her ancestors... she's an immigrant herself.

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Re: Project 1800's
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2024, 03:51:40 AM »
The shul Shomer Shabbos in BoroPark, that is now the minyan factory, was opened specifically for shomer shabbos people.  Their Shabbos minyan started at 9 and was relatively leisurely. Unlike the other shuls that had quick, early morning minyanim so people could go to work afterward.
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Re: Project 1800's
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2024, 10:47:17 AM »
Did not know that.
Unbelievable!

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Re: Project 1800's
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2024, 10:54:54 AM »
The shul Shomer Shabbos in BoroPark, that is now the minyan factory, was opened specifically for shomer shabbos people.  Their Shabbos minyan started at 9 and was relatively leisurely. Unlike the other shuls that had quick, early morning minyanim so people could go to work afterward.

It started as msihnayos groups for bachurim on shabbos afternoon as "Chevras Bachurim Shomrei Shabbos" by my great uncle and his friendss who eventually started their own minyan
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Re: Project 1800's
« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2024, 01:05:06 PM »
It started as msihnayos groups for bachurim on shabbos afternoon as "Chevras Bachurim Shomrei Shabbos" by my great uncle and his friendss who eventually started their own minyan
wow! keep the info coming.

The shul Shomer Shabbos in BoroPark, that is now the minyan factory, was opened specifically for shomer shabbos people.  Their Shabbos minyan started at 9 and was relatively leisurely. Unlike the other shuls that had quick, early morning minyanim so people could go to work afterward.
my understanding is that the reason they started after nine was that only shomer shabbos where able to daven because those that went to work wouldn't be able to join the minyan as it was after nine.