Author Topic: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"  (Read 89249 times)

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68927
  • Total likes: 17315
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #360 on: November 17, 2013, 12:05:38 AM »
Charlize Theron, talk about HOT!

So have you asked your wife to shave her head yet ;)
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Online CountValentine

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Mar 2013
  • Posts: 16686
  • Total likes: 7494
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips -1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
  • Location: Poland - Exiled
  • Programs: DAOTYA, DDF Level 3, 5K Lounge
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #361 on: November 17, 2013, 12:07:03 AM »
I guess wigs do have a benefit. You can go to bed with different women and not cheat on your wife.  :P
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

Offline meshugener

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Feb 2012
  • Posts: 6959
  • Total likes: 62
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
  • Location: DDF
  • Programs: Amex Platinum, Chase Freedom 10X10 Exclusives, Avis Presidents Club, National Executive, Hertz 5 Star, Hilton Gold, Accor Platinum, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Silver, SPG Gold, Club Carlson Gold
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #362 on: November 17, 2013, 12:07:31 AM »
@CV
What do you think about this thread?
Love me or hate me. I still love you.

Offline whYME

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 3370
  • Total likes: 1241
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #363 on: November 17, 2013, 12:09:56 AM »
Many men shave thier head without any wig in place. 

Men don't care for thier hair as  much as women do.
Also,  men don't look bad when they  have a shaven head.  Now imagine a women walking around with a shaven head. . . .

Bottom line: comparing  men and women in this discussion is just plain stupid. 
Do I really need to spell every little detail out?

sheesh.

If I was a woman (or if this was the norm for men) who had long hair, and needed to keep my hair covered all the time, I would find my long hair very uncomfortable and I would cut it all off.
It's not like I'm walking with a shaved head in public, I'm wearing a shaitel than anyways.




Offline whYME

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 3370
  • Total likes: 1241
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #364 on: November 17, 2013, 12:11:31 AM »
500-7000 min two
$7k?!

They really go that high?

I was going to write $5k by mine but I don't think I actually anyone who spent more than about $3k

Online CountValentine

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Mar 2013
  • Posts: 16686
  • Total likes: 7494
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips -1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
  • Location: Poland - Exiled
  • Programs: DAOTYA, DDF Level 3, 5K Lounge
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #365 on: November 17, 2013, 12:11:43 AM »
So have you asked your wife to shave her head yet ;)
I never said all women look good with a shaved head. I am working on just to get her to have her hair cut shorter.   
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

Offline Saver2000

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 7678
  • Total likes: 47
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #366 on: November 17, 2013, 12:17:09 AM »
Do I really need to spell every little detail out?

sheesh.

If I was a woman (or if this was the norm for men) who had long hair, and needed to keep my hair covered all the time, I would find my long hair very uncomfortable and I would cut it all off.
It's not like I'm walking with a shaved head in public, I'm wearing a shaitel than anyways.
What I meant to say was this:

This does not apply to men. 

@meshugener
Halachah aside,  I find it  very very hard to believe that a girl has no issue with her hair being cut off.
Especially after 17+ years of washing  it,  ironing it,  caring for it,  and taking pride in it.

Offline Ergel

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 13070
  • Total likes: 905
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #367 on: November 17, 2013, 12:50:43 AM »
7K, are you serious??

Last 2 my wife bought have been under $600 from a local person: https://www.facebook.com/deeva.wigs

Guess I'm lucky.
Depends on hair color.  Some have to get custom which drives up the price
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

Offline Saver2000

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 7678
  • Total likes: 47
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #368 on: November 17, 2013, 12:56:27 AM »
Depends on hair color.  Some have to get custom which drives up the price
It's also about the quality.  Better quality costs more. 

Offline Satmar Lady

  • Non-Elite Member
  • Join Date: Nov 2013
  • Posts: 0
  • Total likes: 1
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #369 on: November 17, 2013, 02:57:49 AM »
@ satmar lady:

Trroogen shtrrimpf mit seamz iz jezt in fashion ba de goyim.
Efsherr is tzaat tsi trroogen geherrige shtrrrimpf?

That will proof whether it's worn just because it's your tradition or to actually look out of date.

I was partly joking before (in this post), but in as much as the husband agree to the shaving part, no that done rabonim spoke harshly against it (no links at hand), as they said that the "turning oneself ugly", is a big problem, as that could disgust the husband, yes, even if he stands behind this shitta.
Women have to look good to their husband so that all stays in check.

It's worn to look out of date? Never heard. Real reason: to prove beyond any doubt that it isn't your bare skin.
All I can tell you is that my husband is very  content with my looks (mild choice of words m'shim tznius). All they see is your head-covering, never the shaved head. If it does become an issue, the woman should definitely be mevater on a chumra to save her marriage. But she shouldn't send her kids to a school where she'll have to be dishonest about it.
Re: your previous post, can you explain why none of the graduates in my school - 2 classes per grade - is mechalel shabbos, at least in public? Yes, there are rebels, but they do keep the basics. Of course there are the infamous Satmar OTD's, but  the fact that our Satmar school is clean shows something. And where do you get your numbers from, BTW? Did you take into account our huge population, and the fact that a story about leaving the "ultra of the ultra" sells very well, thus tempting them to tell it?
« Last Edit: November 17, 2013, 03:05:04 AM by jj1000 »

Offline Satmar Lady

  • Non-Elite Member
  • Join Date: Nov 2013
  • Posts: 0
  • Total likes: 1
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #370 on: November 17, 2013, 03:03:40 AM »
Lol
Is it really so difficult to put on a sheitel properly?

And if that's the real issue so get a short haircut so there's not even a chance of stray hairs coming out of a sheitel, why shaven?

Well, I can tell you which ones of my chassidish neighbors don't shave. When wearing a snood, bandanna or turban, which are also worn in public places, it's almost impossible.

Offline Satmar Lady

  • Non-Elite Member
  • Join Date: Nov 2013
  • Posts: 0
  • Total likes: 1
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #371 on: November 17, 2013, 03:08:46 AM »
I was told (first hand) that it is a triple zero shave, so definitely some people are doing that.
I'm one of those, doing so  that I don't have to shave so often. Nobody ever told me to. But it is much easier to have hair sticking out from a turban when having a boy cut - I know I have to be more careful when it's longer.

Offline Satmar Lady

  • Non-Elite Member
  • Join Date: Nov 2013
  • Posts: 0
  • Total likes: 1
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #372 on: November 17, 2013, 03:26:02 AM »


@jj: No halachic basis as far as I know, it's just a custom, but I can tell you from what I remember when I was a kallah - you can't compare the work that goes into the hair to any other body hair.
@Satmar Guy: as for the reason it started after thousands of years of not doing so, the way I understand it is that there were some instances of michsholos, where women noticed chatzitzas when it was already too late, so they made this takanah. Tznius makes even more sense - women started wearing smaller head-coverings instead of those huge shawls, so the chance of hair sticking out was greater.

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68927
  • Total likes: 17315
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #373 on: November 17, 2013, 03:29:12 AM »
Well, I can tell you which ones of my chassidish neighbors don't shave. When wearing a snood, bandanna or turban, which are also worn in public places, it's almost impossible.
Again, so why not ban those items and require a full sheitel?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline Drago

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 8416
  • Total likes: 75
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 18
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #374 on: November 17, 2013, 04:30:26 AM »
@meshugener
Halachah aside,  I find it  very very hard to believe that a girl has no issue with her hair being cut off.
Especially after 17+ years of washing  it,  ironing it,  caring for it,  and taking pride in it. 
Hence the chumra that even single girls should be covering their hair.
And before you laugh, it's slowly picking up steam here in Israel.

Offline SuperFlyer

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 9407
  • Total likes: 439
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #375 on: November 17, 2013, 07:12:09 AM »
@satmar lady: can I guess, your school isn't in ky or Monroe, etc, rather a smaller place, maybe in a neighborhood with a healthy mix of different level of Jews?

Offline raphy781

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Feb 2013
  • Posts: 1527
  • Total likes: 4
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #376 on: November 17, 2013, 07:52:46 AM »
Hence the chumra that even single girls should be covering their hair.
And before you laugh, it's slowly picking up steam here in Israel.
Those poor little girls forced to walk around in burkas.

Offline Drago

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 8416
  • Total likes: 75
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 18
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #377 on: November 17, 2013, 08:26:34 AM »
Those poor little girls forced to walk around in burkas.
Perhaps they're choosing to walk around that way in order to be modest? Huh, ever consider that?

Offline raphy781

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Feb 2013
  • Posts: 1527
  • Total likes: 4
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #378 on: November 17, 2013, 09:01:34 AM »
Perhaps they're choosing to walk around that way in order to be modest? Huh, ever consider that?
I did consider that but I doubt any 5 year old girl would choose to be covered by a black sheet with slits for eyes.

Offline Drago

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 8416
  • Total likes: 75
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 18
    • View Profile
Re: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"
« Reply #379 on: November 17, 2013, 10:26:27 AM »
I did consider that but I doubt any 5 year old girl would choose to be covered by a black sheet with slits for eyes.
adolescent pimples can be very traumatizing...