Author Topic: "Ex-Hasidic Woman Marks Five Years Since She Shaved Her Head"  (Read 88043 times)

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2013, 09:15:35 PM »
Not everyone lets their husband see it...
WHAAA??

Good Lord.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #61 on: November 14, 2013, 09:19:58 PM »
@yehuda
I don't advocate forcing.
The story in the forward is indeed crazy.

I'm just trying to give you an idea how others see this issue with a different perspective.

This would require an analysis of what 'forcing' really means.

Being put in a kind of cherem for not shaving is a blackmail that qualifies as forcing from my perspective.

Some women see no point in keeping their hair if it can't be uncovered anyway.

This requires the kind of leap of faith that I find myself incapable of making right now.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #62 on: November 14, 2013, 09:39:17 PM »
This requires the kind of leap of faith that I find myself incapable of making right now.
Well thank G-d you're not a chasidishe woman:)

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #63 on: November 14, 2013, 09:44:26 PM »
Now this one is beyond me.
Same here but that's what I heard from R' Cheikin (and not as a story rather a suggestion...)

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #64 on: November 14, 2013, 09:47:43 PM »
ועשית ככל אשר יורוך...
There is no such passuk :P
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #65 on: November 14, 2013, 09:48:08 PM »
1. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's a chok.

2. To someone non-religious, following a command from hashem looks just as cult-like as chassidim following a rebbe does to you.
Not sure I follow
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #66 on: November 14, 2013, 09:48:30 PM »
Can someone please clarify how on earth hair can be more chomur than the rest of the body? Please ask a rabbi who advocates this and get back to me. TIA

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #67 on: November 14, 2013, 09:53:44 PM »
Same here but that's what I heard from R' Cheikin (and not as a story rather a suggestion...)
And do you actually wear wool tzitzes...............
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #68 on: November 14, 2013, 10:07:24 PM »
And do you actually wear wool tzitzes...............
Look at the first 2 words of my post...

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #69 on: November 14, 2013, 10:22:06 PM »
Look at the first 2 words of my post...
The first suggestion went out the door because the 2nd made it seem like a purim shpiel.../.02
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #70 on: November 14, 2013, 10:28:14 PM »


Being put in a kind of cherem for not shaving is a blackmail that qualifies as forcing from my perspective.


I agree.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #71 on: November 14, 2013, 10:35:43 PM »
Can someone please clarify how on earth hair can be more chomur than the rest of the body? Please ask a rabbi who advocates this and get back to me. TIA
  I don't think anyone said its more chomur.
But honestly I have no answer on that one. I never thought how contradicting it actually is.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #72 on: November 14, 2013, 10:37:21 PM »
  I don't think anyone said its more chomur.
But honestly I have no answer on that one. I never thought how contradicting it actually is.
It is actually something that has bothered me for a long time. I dont really understand it.

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #73 on: November 14, 2013, 10:40:13 PM »
The Chumrah of hair is according to Kabballah (which is probably the reason why it's more strict in Chassidishe chicks).

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #74 on: November 14, 2013, 10:45:11 PM »
That I have a hard time believing.
They might see no point if they are real chasidim, but that there's no point because only your husband can see it?
Okay, now I agree. It must be some type of a cult.
Concepts that are so simple for some people, are so weird for others.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #75 on: November 14, 2013, 10:46:13 PM »
The Chumrah of hair is according to Kabballah (which is probably the reason why it's more strict in Chassidishe chicks).
I don't think that's what concerns the women I know...
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #76 on: November 14, 2013, 10:48:39 PM »
@meshugener
Halachah aside,  I find it  very very hard to believe that a girl has no issue with her hair being cut off.
Especially after 17+ years of washing  it,  ironing it,  caring for it,  and taking pride in it. 

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« Reply #77 on: November 14, 2013, 10:51:59 PM »
@meshugener
Halachah aside,  I find it  very very hard to believe that a girl has no issue with her hair being cut off.
Especially after 17+ years of washing  it,  ironing it,  caring for it,  and taking pride in it.


I can't make you believe something you find hard to believe, I can just tell you what my wife told me that she

see no point in keeping their hair if it can't be uncovered anyway.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #78 on: November 14, 2013, 10:56:31 PM »
So you never see her actual head 24/7?
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #79 on: November 14, 2013, 10:57:14 PM »
So you never see her actual head 24/7?
You can PM me for questions like that.
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