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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2013, 09:51:46 AM »
A person who finds such a treasure should realize that it comes from Hashem. If he does not forget that then he can think what the message from Heaven is. It is a huge opportunity to make a kiddush Hashem and help out the person who lost it and suffered the lost. If Hashem wants to give you money for you to keep, He can give it to you in a way that noone else is suffering from it.

Easy to talk when it is not you in the tormentous moment.
The question wasn't "what would the Mashgiach say to do" >:(

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2013, 09:59:29 AM »
In terms of getting away with it-that's pretty simple. You dispose of the desk. Say it didn't fit into your house and you threw it out. You can't get caught.

That being said I still think you should give it back
« Last Edit: November 19, 2013, 10:36:40 AM by Ergel »
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2013, 10:02:18 AM »
I would keep it and pay off some Credit Card debt and fix up my house.

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2013, 11:02:43 AM »
In terms of getting away with it-that's pretty simple. You dispose of the desk. Say it didn't fit into your house and you threw it out. You can't get caught.

That being said I still think you should give it back
The question was not what you SHOULD do but what you WOULD do.
As Sam said:
The question wasn't "what would the Mashgiach say to do" >:(
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2013, 11:06:33 AM »
The question was not what you SHOULD do but what you WOULD do.
For some “would” and “should” is one in the same. Not something I would (not should) expect young grasshoppers to understand at their age.
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2013, 11:11:14 AM »
Do you really think any of you would be able to sleep at night, you will never stop thinking that the owner will remember where he put the money and will come after you for it.  :-\
Honestly, that's not what would keep me up at night, it would be the thought that the money I'm enjoying is at the expense of someone who lost it, I never lost 98K (wish I was in the position to) but I can just imagine what someone would feel like when he did...

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2013, 11:19:19 AM »
Honestly, that's not what would keep me up at night, it would be the thought that the money I'm enjoying is at the expense of someone who lost it, I never lost 98K (wish I was in the position to) but I can just imagine what someone would feel like when he did...
Im starting to hear...But still, Hashem nosan, Hashem lokach yehi shem hashem mevurach  :D

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2013, 11:27:32 AM »
Some say its a salileh to give it back.
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2013, 11:33:10 AM »
If he is smart he can use the enormous publicity he received to his advantage for a value greatly exceeding $98k 
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2013, 11:33:43 AM »
Well, if you answer that you wouldn't return it I do believe you,
If you answer that you would be scared to keep it for any reason I would also believe you,
BUT if you say that you would return it cause that's the right thing to do ummm.. maybe while not being at it you think you would do so but when you're "at it" you might somehow find 1.5 million excuses why not to return it,

If you'll actually do it then I'll believe you.

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #50 on: November 19, 2013, 11:37:08 AM »
If he is smart he can use the enormous publicity he received to his advantage for a value greatly exceeding $98k
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2013, 11:37:53 AM »
Some say its a salileh to give it back.
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kpshutoi it's assur. The velt throws around the kiddush hashem business way too easily. It is an issur doraisa that we are dealing with.

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2013, 11:39:30 AM »
Some say its a salileh to give it back.
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Of course! Now your talking, thats only one of the 98 k reasons 

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2013, 11:39:40 AM »
Honestly, that's not what would keep me up at night, it would be the thought that the money I'm enjoying is at the expense of someone who lost it, I never lost 98K (wish I was in the position to) but I can just imagine what someone would feel like when he did...
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2013, 11:41:15 AM »
If he is smart he can use the enormous publicity he received to his advantage for a value greatly exceeding $98k
Fyi- he video'd himself calling the owner, he contacted the news agencies, he posed for a picture with the cash and the desk, he spoke at the agudah convention.

I'm pretty sure he's on top of that.

He has his own "derech" of doing things ( :P)
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #55 on: November 19, 2013, 11:49:13 AM »
Fyi- he video'd himself calling the owner, he contacted the news agencies, he posed for a picture with the cash and the desk, he spoke at the agudah convention.

I'm pretty sure he's on top of that.

He has his own "derech" of doing things ( :P)
officially he was guided by R' Shmuel Kamenetzky

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #56 on: November 19, 2013, 11:51:02 AM »
Fyi- he video'd himself calling the owner, he contacted the news agencies, he posed for a picture with the cash and the desk, he spoke at the agudah convention.

I'm pretty sure he's on top of that.

He has his own "derech" of doing things ( :P)

Seriously WTH? Is it to hard to fathom that there are some honest decent human beings out there....
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #57 on: November 19, 2013, 11:53:11 AM »
Seriously WTH? Is it to hard to fathom that there are some honest decent human beings out there....
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #58 on: November 19, 2013, 12:06:27 PM »
kpshutoi it's assur. The velt throws around the kiddush hashem business way too easily. It is an issur doraisa that we are dealing with.
Did you ask a competent posek about it? I did and he said it's pashut mutar. Whether you should or not he wasn't as sure about but thought it is definitely a nice thing to do
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #59 on: November 19, 2013, 12:30:28 PM »
@ergel
Maybe your rav is a very lenient posek, I look for machmir when it comes to these shailos.
Its very chamur ;)
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