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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #80 on: November 19, 2013, 02:53:59 PM »
For anyone really questioning whether in this specific case it was muttar to return it, this is exactly why it for sure was muttar (and in fact it was 'praiseworthy'). By returning the money in this manner, he made sure he fell squarely within the bounds set forth by the Shulchan Aruch:
I don't think anyone was referring to this case specifically as I noted before he was guided by R' Shmuel Kamenetzky

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #81 on: November 19, 2013, 02:57:12 PM »
I don't think anyone was referring to this case specifically as I noted before he was guided by R' Shmuel Kamenetzky
I don't doubt that.  I can't imagine he returned it without first asking a sheila.
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #82 on: November 19, 2013, 03:00:55 PM »
Actually I believe he did return it first, and then saw R' Shmuel at the Torah Umesorah convention where he was advised to publicize it for the Kiddush Hashem.

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #84 on: November 19, 2013, 03:23:51 PM »
Actually I believe he did return it first, and then saw R' Shmuel at the Torah Umesorah convention where he was advised to publicize it for the Kiddush Hashem.
And that's why he video taped everything? ???

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #85 on: November 19, 2013, 03:25:32 PM »
And that's why he video taped everything? ???
I would probably record a conversation like that too, just to get the reaction.

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #86 on: November 19, 2013, 04:05:26 PM »

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #87 on: November 19, 2013, 04:32:16 PM »
Important lesson from the story. If you have a large amount of cash around make sure that the yorshim will know about it at the proper time. #estateplanning
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #88 on: November 19, 2013, 04:41:23 PM »
Important lesson from the story. If you have a large amount of cash around make sure that the yorshim will know about it at the proper time. #estateplanning
How about miles?
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #89 on: November 19, 2013, 04:45:27 PM »
How about miles?
Cash trumps miles.  :P
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #90 on: November 19, 2013, 05:16:13 PM »
Important lesson from the story. If you have a large amount of cash around make sure that the yorshim will know about it at the proper time. #estateplanning
I think you have the story slightly wrong:
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Muroff said the woman, who he declined to identify, had mentioned to him that she bought the desk from Staples and built it herself a few years ago. The money was part of an inheritance she received and happened to have misplaced.

"She had put the money in the drawer, and thought she had taken the money out of the drawer a few months ago," he said. "She realized shortly thereafter that it was gone. She knew she wasn't robbed, she just thought it was somewhere in her house."
The seller had inherited the money, stashed it away, and sold the desk forgetting it was still in there. The lesson is more like don't store $98k in a desk - peel off some change and buy a safe to put it in.

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #91 on: November 19, 2013, 05:18:36 PM »
I think you have the story slightly wrong:The seller had inherited the money, stashed it away, and sold the desk forgetting it was still in there. The lesson is more like don't store $98k in a desk - peel off some change and buy a safe to put it in.
Wrong, the money had been caught behind the draw and was lost to the owners.

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #92 on: November 19, 2013, 05:23:18 PM »
Wrong, the money had been caught behind the draw and was lost to the owners.
What denomination were the bills? More to this story than is being told.
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #93 on: November 19, 2013, 05:26:48 PM »
Wrong, the money had been caught behind the draw and was lost to the owners.
Not wrong, right. Did you read the second quote in my post? That quote is from one of many articles on the story that all say the same thing. aygart implied that someone stashed their money in the desk, died, and the inheritors sold the desk not realizing it was in there. I was correcting him on that. Whether she 'lost' the money before she sold it because it fell inside the desk is irrelevant. My point is that the inheritance aspect of the story is ancillary.

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #94 on: November 19, 2013, 05:33:39 PM »
"I do not think there are too many people in this world that would have done what you did by calling me. I do like to believe that there are still good people left in this crazy world we live in. You certainly are one of them," the woman wrote. "I cannot thank you enough for your honesty and integrity."
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #95 on: November 19, 2013, 05:37:35 PM »
I think you have the story slightly wrong:The seller had inherited the money, stashed it away, and sold the desk forgetting it was still in there. The lesson is more like don't store $98k in a desk - peel off some change and buy a safe to put it in.
I stand corrected. Proper "estate planning" is still advised.
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #96 on: November 19, 2013, 05:53:20 PM »
I don't think anyone was referring to this case specifically as I noted before he was guided by R' Shmuel Kamenetzky
I'm didn't follow the thread, but from what i've read, he approached R' Shmuel only after he had already returned the money.
He was guided by R' Shmuel to publicize the incident.


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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #97 on: November 19, 2013, 05:59:19 PM »

Did anyone here ever see the episode of 'What would you do' where they had people find the money outside the bank?

It was the poorest people that ended up trying to find the owner and return it.
Thats why they're poor!

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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #98 on: November 19, 2013, 06:08:23 PM »
FTR, not sure if this was posted:

http://duvys.com/clients/agudah/video.php?channel=agudathisraelofamerica
HAHAHAHAH! The Agudah officially isn't permitted by their leaders to have a website, so this is the workaround.

These are the people who scream "Daas Torah"!!!
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Re: what would you do if you found 98k in a desk from craigs?
« Reply #99 on: November 19, 2013, 06:21:59 PM »
HAHAHAHAH! The Agudah officially isn't permitted by their leaders to have a website, so this is the workaround.

These are the people who scream "Daas Torah"!!!
Not to go OT but its getting pathetic because a legitimate major organization without a web site is not going to be able to properly function in the near future.