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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1080 on: November 25, 2013, 04:40:49 PM »
@ how much per ticket?

Estimates on FT is that the potential damage is btw 6-9m $

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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1081 on: November 25, 2013, 05:01:54 PM »
Estimates on FT is that the potential damage is btw 6-9m $

That wirdeo gained in commission? Or is that the amount that United or whoever lost out on from yq?

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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1082 on: November 25, 2013, 05:06:50 PM »
That wirdeo gained in commission? Or is that the amount that United or whoever lost out on from yq?
I assume the latter
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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1083 on: November 25, 2013, 05:08:29 PM »
One thing I don't get is even if wf doesn't have to eat the loss and either ua or Amadeus does, how does wf believe they will be able to keep the commissions?
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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1084 on: November 25, 2013, 05:09:45 PM »
Might be a stupid question, but if they claim it was Amadaus, why weren't we able to see these prices with any TA that uses Amadaus? I guess the system isn't that simple obviously but I'm wondering how it works.

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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1085 on: November 25, 2013, 05:11:40 PM »
Does United pay them commission or do they pay United the fare but short of commission?
If United cuts them a check for commission I dont see it coming..

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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1086 on: November 25, 2013, 05:12:01 PM »
Might be a stupid question, but if they claim it was Amadaus, why weren't we able to see these prices with any TA that uses Amadaus? I guess the system isn't that simple obviously but I'm wondering how it works.
You could. Just had to issue on 701 stock
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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1087 on: November 25, 2013, 05:14:18 PM »
You could. Just had to issue on 701 stock
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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1088 on: November 25, 2013, 05:15:21 PM »
Now in English please. :P
Exemption from Securities Registration Under Rule 701
Under Rule 701 of the Securities Act of 1933, companies can offer their own securities as part of written compensation agreements to employees, directors, general partners, trustees, officers, or certain consultants without having to comply with federal securities registration requirements. Under Rule 701, if total sales (not offerings) of stock during a twelve-month period do not exceed the greater of:
$1 million,
15% of the issuer's total assets, or
15% of all the outstanding securities of that class,
then the offerings are exempt from registration requirements. The offerings must be discrete (not included in any other offer). All optionees and shareholders must be provided with a copy of the benefit plan or contract under which the options or securities are granted. For total sales over $5 million during a twelve-month period to the specified class of people above, companies must disclose additional information, including risk factors, copies of the plans under which the offerings are made, and certain financial statements.

While these are the general outlines of the rule, there are a number of specific wrinkles, as outlined below.
Measuring Sales
The limit is based on actual sales, not just offers. In measuring sales, all options granted during the period are considered part of the aggregate sales, with the option price defined as of the date of grant. Repriced options are treated as new grants. For restricted stock or compensatory stock purchases, calculations are made as of the date of sale. For deferred compensation equity plans, measurements are based on the date on an irrevocable election to defer compensation. In calculating outstanding securities for the 15% rules, all currently exercisable or convertible options, warrants, rights, and other securities are treated as outstanding.

The rule also requires that if stock is provided in exchange for employee or consultant services, the value for the purposes of the exemption calculations is the price of the stock provided, not the amount of compensation foregone.

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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1089 on: November 25, 2013, 05:20:27 PM »
Now in English please. :P
Has to be issued by Wideroe. Most tickets can be issued by any IATA airline. A TA is supposed to "Auto validate" or ticket on the airline that is the default for the reservation, however if can be manually overridden. If you have a RT UA ticket it is supposed to be issued on UA, but if you issue on WF there is no YQ. However the base fare is supposed to be higher. The glitch with Amadeus was that there was no YQ, and the base fare wasn't raised to reflect that
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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1090 on: November 25, 2013, 05:54:37 PM »

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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1091 on: November 25, 2013, 06:28:14 PM »
Can still view it thanks to Google Cache.
very interesting

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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1092 on: November 25, 2013, 07:32:29 PM »
hey anybody have success changing dates?

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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1093 on: November 25, 2013, 08:16:03 PM »
hey anybody have success changing dates?
No.
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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1094 on: November 25, 2013, 08:57:08 PM »
Why use their real accounts?!

Prob an oversight

IMHO if until now was 95% these will be honored, it just went down to 70% maybe
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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1095 on: November 26, 2013, 12:15:37 AM »
Airlines sending me "We're in this together" emails.

Bruh, where were you when my suitcase weighed it 51.50 pounds?

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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1098 on: November 26, 2013, 03:50:17 AM »
I'm a bit nervous.
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Re: [DEAD] 11/23 Wideroe-United Price mistake
« Reply #1099 on: November 26, 2013, 07:46:29 AM »
Not a problem, except if you use Pre-TSA boarding.