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DEAD - 10/13/14

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The Basics:

You can send up to $1,000/month directly from your CCs or GCs, and receive the same amount, which can then be withdrawn to your bank account. (No, you don't withdraw the money to your CC or GC.) These limits reset on the 1st of the calendar month at 12am Pacific Time.

Setup:

1. Although AP requires a SSN, you will not get a hard pull against your credit. You will not get a 1099-K unless you are receiving over $20k per year AND have done 200 transactions.

2. The driver's license number on the account need not be a real number, only the same format.

3. You need to connect and verify a bank account to be able to send $1,000/month. Otherwise, only $500 will be allowed. (Also, you will have difficulty withdrawing money to your bank account if it is not connected to your account.)

4. Verification can sometimes be instant if you log into your bank account through Amazon, but sometimes (particularly with smaller banks or CUs, it seems) the only working option is to allow AP to make two small deposits to you account (less than a dollar, often much less) and then reporting the exact amounts thereby verifying that the account is yours. (If you want to use AP as described here, don't even think about trying to profit from the small deposits by opening up a ton of accounts. You have been warned.)

5. The receiver account must add a credit card to be able to capture the funds sent.

Sending Money

1. Make sure to select "Goods and Services" when sending money. This is important so that the transaction codes as a purchase (for which you will get CC points/miles) and not a cash advance (for which you will not).

2. For some reason, when sending the value from GCs, AP will often prevent the full value from being sent unless, when connecting the GC with your account, you first enter the wrong expiration date and then change it to the correct one. <blinkblink>... <shrug>... but it works.  Or wait a week after putting the GC into your account for the hold to be removed from the funds.

3. And no, Amazon Gift Card balance cannot be used with Amazon Payments.

Multiple accounts:

1. It is highly recommended not to access both accounts of a transaction from the same IP address. Please see the IP Information section below for more... IP Information.

2. Most people didn't have problems opening two accounts per SSN even if they link to the same bank account, but it is risky to send money back and forth between them. Some report a similar risk with sending or receiving with a spouse who has the same bank account linked to their account.

3. Sending money using the same CC from different accounts is a known cause of shutdown.

Error messages and potential delays

1. If you get a message stating "We are unable to complete your transaction until further review. It can take up to 24 hours to complete this transaction. We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause," relax and be patient. It is perfectly normal.

2. Withdrawals are never authorized immediately. Be patient. It usually doesn't even take a full day. Likewise it's perfectly normal for you to get a message that your withdrawal has succeeded but it doesn't show up in your bank account yet even as pending. It will be there soon. Be patient.

3. Verifying a bank account via the deposit method can take a few days. Please anticipate and account for the extra time needed for the deposit method if you are planning to set up and use an account for the first time late in the month.

IP Information:

1. To check the IP address of the device you're using, Google "how to check my IP address"

2. All devices using the same WiFi router have the same IP address.

3. A computer connected to the Internet with a router has a different IP than it does if connected to the Internet without a router.

4. Browsing incognito or in private mode does not change your IP address.

5. To change the IP address of a computer, turn off the computer, wait a few minutes, then turn it back on. Check if you have a new IP address. If not, turn it off for 8+ hours (overnight or something) and check again. You will likely have a new IP address.

6. On a phone or other device (with it's own data) switch WiFi off. To change IP addresses, switch to 'airplane mode' and switch back and you will usually have a new IP address. Note: If your phone or tablet has WiFi only, it will always have the same IP address as other devices that connect through the same WiFi.


PBaruch's suggestions:

1. It is no longer generally considered safe to have multiple AP accounts for the same person.  Yes, there are exceptions and some people have had luck but I would caution against it.  If you are the reckless type go to number 2 below.  If not, please proceed to number 3 below.

2. If you do decide to try your luck and open 2 or more AP accounts for the same person, do not send $ back and forth between these two accounts.

3. Do not send $ back and forth between people in the same household.  Again, there are exceptions and some people have had luck but it is a trigger for a shutdown.  The way AP views it is if you are in the same household, give em cash. 

4. If there are multiple AP users in the same household, do NOT use the same IP address.  If you do, be warned.  You will very likely be shut down.

5. If you are shut down, you may have luck reopening your AP account by varying the spelling of your name and changing your address. 

6. If you want to send $ to a spouse, it helps if he/she has a different last name and address.

7. I would caution against any complete circles or triangles.  For instance, do not send A-B-C-A.  Rather, send A-B-C-D.

8. If you need bank accounts to link to AP, it is VERY easy to open multiple accounts (with no fee) by using Capitol One 360: https://home.capitalone360.com/ (Be aware that this is likely a hard pull.)

9. Do NOT do instant account verification. Let them send deposits instead to verify the account.  By doing so, I do not believe that they know who owns the account. This may be useful if you use some of my other suggestions.

These are my suggestions based upon personal experience and my gleaning of other posts.

Poll

Were you shut down?

Yes, but i got it back! :)
7 (2.9%)
Yes. :(
55 (22.5%)
No, B"H!  :)
149 (61.1%)
Yes and No (I have more then 1 account)
33 (13.5%)

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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5260 on: September 11, 2014, 11:09:15 AM »
cant send a payment anybody else has a problem

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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5261 on: September 11, 2014, 11:09:55 AM »
cant send a payment anybody else has a problem
What exactly does it say ?

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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5262 on: September 11, 2014, 11:21:33 AM »
cant send a payment anybody else has a problem
"Confirm" button not clicking?
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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5264 on: September 11, 2014, 11:29:33 AM »
yes
Experienced same issue with a couple people in my group. I was able to get it to work on Firefox Incognito.
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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5265 on: September 11, 2014, 11:37:46 AM »
Experienced same issue with a couple people in my group. I was able to get it to work on Firefox Incognito.

how do I do incognito again on Chrome or Internet explorer?

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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5266 on: September 11, 2014, 11:39:21 AM »
ctrl+shift+P/N
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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5267 on: September 11, 2014, 11:41:34 AM »
how do I do incognito again on Chrome or Internet explorer?
Hope it works for you, but the other people did not have it working in those browsers.
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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5268 on: September 11, 2014, 11:49:28 AM »
"Confirm" button not clicking?
+1...
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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5269 on: September 11, 2014, 01:45:51 PM »
Same issue and IE privacy did not work

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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5270 on: September 11, 2014, 02:11:13 PM »
They should at least subsidize counseling for those of us who are most directly affected...
LOL
I had 6 live accounts - maxed out in full each month for the past 2+ years. This is so sad.

The biggest loss is 3X on PRG  ;)

But I guess our grandparents in the concentration camps would wish that to be their biggest problem.
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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5271 on: September 11, 2014, 02:12:58 PM »
The biggest loss is 3X on PRG  ;)
What was that?
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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5272 on: September 11, 2014, 03:13:40 PM »
What was that?
What's so difficult to understand?
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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5273 on: September 11, 2014, 03:21:33 PM »
What's so difficult to understand?
PRG gave extra points on AP? Or did you just buy GCs with PRG... then you're paying fees.
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Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5274 on: September 11, 2014, 03:41:14 PM »
The biggest loss is...
For me it's no longer being able to carry low level CC debt (a few $K) conveniently and for free by using CCs to pay themselves on time -- improving my credit in the process (by spending and paying on time) despite being in debt. 
Also two cents per dollar on Barclay arrival, plus until recently three cents per dollar from shopping portal on 6K per month. ($120 toward travel and $180 cash back monthly).

Quite a loss for me :(

But, as I thanked chase for everything they have me before A/A'ing me, I thank AP for their generosity for the past four years. Paying CC processing fees on 6K a month for me month in and month out, allowing me to carry debt for free and providing many points and dollars in cashback in the process is no small thing.
Credit where it's due!


EDIT: guess I'll have to switch to Serve for $2K per month between my wife and I.
Until now I was sticking with BB for both of us, because the checks were quite handy for us and having $6K per month on AP, I wasn't desperate for the $2K from two serve accounts.

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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5275 on: September 11, 2014, 03:41:36 PM »
PRG gave extra points on AP? Or did you just buy GCs with PRG... then you're paying fees.
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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5276 on: September 11, 2014, 03:47:20 PM »
For me it's no longer being able to carry low level CC debt (a few $K) conveniently and for free by using CCs to pay themselves on time -- improving my credit in the process (by spending and paying on time) despite being in debt. 
Also two cents per dollar on Barclay arrival, plus until recently three cents per dollar from shopping portal on 6K per month. ($120 toward travel and $180 cash back monthly).

Quite a loss for me :(

But, as I thanked chase for everything they have me before A/A'ing me, I thank AP for their generosity for the past four years. Paying CC processing fees on 6K a month for me month in and month out, allowing me to carry debt for free and providing many points and dollars in cashback in the process is no small thing.
Credit where it's due!
That's quite a eulogy.

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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
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Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5278 on: September 11, 2014, 03:50:58 PM »
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Re: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
« Reply #5279 on: September 11, 2014, 03:51:04 PM »

That's quite a eulogy.
Yep!
AP carried me through from tax return to tax return - which have been paying off my annually accumulated debt B"H.