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The Basics:

You can send up to $1,000/month directly from your CCs or GCs, and receive the same amount, which can then be withdrawn to your bank account. (No, you don't withdraw the money to your CC or GC.) These limits reset on the 1st of the calendar month at 12am Pacific Time.

Setup:

1. Although AP requires a SSN, you will not get a hard pull against your credit. You will not get a 1099-K unless you are receiving over $20k per year AND have done 200 transactions.

2. The driver's license number on the account need not be a real number, only the same format.

3. You need to connect and verify a bank account to be able to send $1,000/month. Otherwise, only $500 will be allowed. (Also, you will have difficulty withdrawing money to your bank account if it is not connected to your account.)

4. Verification can sometimes be instant if you log into your bank account through Amazon, but sometimes (particularly with smaller banks or CUs, it seems) the only working option is to allow AP to make two small deposits to you account (less than a dollar, often much less) and then reporting the exact amounts thereby verifying that the account is yours. (If you want to use AP as described here, don't even think about trying to profit from the small deposits by opening up a ton of accounts. You have been warned.)

5. The receiver account must add a credit card to be able to capture the funds sent.

Sending Money

1. Make sure to select "Goods and Services" when sending money. This is important so that the transaction codes as a purchase (for which you will get CC points/miles) and not a cash advance (for which you will not).

2. For some reason, when sending the value from GCs, AP will often prevent the full value from being sent unless, when connecting the GC with your account, you first enter the wrong expiration date and then change it to the correct one. <blinkblink>... <shrug>... but it works.  Or wait a week after putting the GC into your account for the hold to be removed from the funds.

3. And no, Amazon Gift Card balance cannot be used with Amazon Payments.

Multiple accounts:

1. It is highly recommended not to access both accounts of a transaction from the same IP address. Please see the IP Information section below for more... IP Information.

2. Most people didn't have problems opening two accounts per SSN even if they link to the same bank account, but it is risky to send money back and forth between them. Some report a similar risk with sending or receiving with a spouse who has the same bank account linked to their account.

3. Sending money using the same CC from different accounts is a known cause of shutdown.

Error messages and potential delays

1. If you get a message stating "We are unable to complete your transaction until further review. It can take up to 24 hours to complete this transaction. We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause," relax and be patient. It is perfectly normal.

2. Withdrawals are never authorized immediately. Be patient. It usually doesn't even take a full day. Likewise it's perfectly normal for you to get a message that your withdrawal has succeeded but it doesn't show up in your bank account yet even as pending. It will be there soon. Be patient.

3. Verifying a bank account via the deposit method can take a few days. Please anticipate and account for the extra time needed for the deposit method if you are planning to set up and use an account for the first time late in the month.

IP Information:

1. To check the IP address of the device you're using, Google "how to check my IP address"

2. All devices using the same WiFi router have the same IP address.

3. A computer connected to the Internet with a router has a different IP than it does if connected to the Internet without a router.

4. Browsing incognito or in private mode does not change your IP address.

5. To change the IP address of a computer, turn off the computer, wait a few minutes, then turn it back on. Check if you have a new IP address. If not, turn it off for 8+ hours (overnight or something) and check again. You will likely have a new IP address.

6. On a phone or other device (with it's own data) switch WiFi off. To change IP addresses, switch to 'airplane mode' and switch back and you will usually have a new IP address. Note: If your phone or tablet has WiFi only, it will always have the same IP address as other devices that connect through the same WiFi.


PBaruch's suggestions:

1. It is no longer generally considered safe to have multiple AP accounts for the same person.  Yes, there are exceptions and some people have had luck but I would caution against it.  If you are the reckless type go to number 2 below.  If not, please proceed to number 3 below.

2. If you do decide to try your luck and open 2 or more AP accounts for the same person, do not send $ back and forth between these two accounts.

3. Do not send $ back and forth between people in the same household.  Again, there are exceptions and some people have had luck but it is a trigger for a shutdown.  The way AP views it is if you are in the same household, give em cash. 

4. If there are multiple AP users in the same household, do NOT use the same IP address.  If you do, be warned.  You will very likely be shut down.

5. If you are shut down, you may have luck reopening your AP account by varying the spelling of your name and changing your address. 

6. If you want to send $ to a spouse, it helps if he/she has a different last name and address.

7. I would caution against any complete circles or triangles.  For instance, do not send A-B-C-A.  Rather, send A-B-C-D.

8. If you need bank accounts to link to AP, it is VERY easy to open multiple accounts (with no fee) by using Capitol One 360: https://home.capitalone360.com/ (Be aware that this is likely a hard pull.)

9. Do NOT do instant account verification. Let them send deposits instead to verify the account.  By doing so, I do not believe that they know who owns the account. This may be useful if you use some of my other suggestions.

These are my suggestions based upon personal experience and my gleaning of other posts.

Poll

Were you shut down?

Yes, but i got it back! :)
7 (2.9%)
Yes. :(
55 (22.5%)
No, B"H!  :)
149 (61.1%)
Yes and No (I have more then 1 account)
33 (13.5%)

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #440 on: January 10, 2012, 10:30:32 PM »
Has anyone used a card to send money with while also receiving money sent with that card?

??? How do u receive money to your cc? Or am I misunderstanding the question?

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #441 on: January 10, 2012, 10:54:52 PM »
??? How do u receive money to your cc? Or am I misunderstanding the question?
Has anyone used a card to send money with while also receiving money sent with that card?
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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #442 on: January 10, 2012, 11:21:11 PM »
??? How do u receive money to your cc? Or am I misunderstanding the question?
Has anyone used a card to send money with while also receiving money sent with that card?

That's wat I meant

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #443 on: January 10, 2012, 11:28:11 PM »
That's wat I meant

hes asking if anyone has a cc that is associated with two different accounts and has sent money using that cc from one account while also receiving money to that same (AP) account from that cc (sent from the other account.
I'm sure there is a better way of explaining that

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #444 on: January 10, 2012, 11:34:57 PM »
hes asking if anyone has a cc that is associated with two different accounts and has sent money using that cc from one account while also receiving money to that same (AP) account from that cc (sent from the other account.
I'm sure there is a better way of explaining that

Thanx for clarifying.  I was seriously reading his post over and over again and had no idea wat he was trying to ask.

@I'm sure I'm not the only one that couldn't figure out your shorthand language.  If you post more elaborately it may help more people understand you. When that happens, you will probably get more answers from people.      Nothing personal - just giving a quick tip.

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #445 on: January 10, 2012, 11:39:49 PM »
Thanx for clarifying.  I was seriously reading his post over and over again and had no idea wat he was trying to ask.

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #446 on: January 10, 2012, 11:57:33 PM »
I have done so many time over the past 4 months sending over 15k with no issues, but after reading a few posts here i dont plan on doing so again. I dont want AMEX to suspen my card...

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #447 on: January 11, 2012, 10:10:27 AM »
@I'm sure I'm not the only one that couldn't figure out your shorthand language.  If you post more elaborately it may help more people understand you. When that happens, you will probably get more answers from people.      Nothing personal - just giving a quick tip.

No offense taken. Will drop the shorthand. Post more words. Elaborate more. That work? Thanks.  :P
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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #448 on: January 11, 2012, 10:59:06 AM »
with Ap would friend to friend work on the same ip and home address? or that's to suspicious

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #449 on: January 11, 2012, 11:29:23 AM »
with Ap would friend to friend work on the same ip and home address? or that's to suspicious

I don't know of any hard fast rules. but I can tell you that I know people doing that for months already with no problem

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #450 on: January 11, 2012, 04:01:26 PM »
I have done so many time over the past 4 months sending over 15k with no issues, but after reading a few posts here i dont plan on doing so again. I dont want AMEX to suspen my card...
i never said the above
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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #451 on: January 12, 2012, 07:54:44 AM »
looks like the best thing to do is send 1 way ap and back with venmo.

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #452 on: January 12, 2012, 12:03:55 PM »
looks like the best thing to do is send 1 way ap and back with venmo.
How does venmo work? is there a fee?

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #453 on: January 12, 2012, 01:49:13 PM »
How does venmo work? is there a fee?
There is a whole thread on venmo here. Read it and you'll be ready to go.

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #454 on: January 13, 2012, 05:40:33 AM »
This is brilliant idea especially for people who frequently use credit card on their purchases. It is great to earn something out of what you are paying for.

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #455 on: January 13, 2012, 11:06:35 AM »
looks like the best thing to do is send 1 way ap and back with venmo.

Don't you just pull out of AP into your checking account?  Where are you sending back to?  Am I missing something?

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #456 on: January 13, 2012, 03:07:17 PM »
Don't you just pull out of AP into your checking account?  Where are you sending back to?  Am I missing something?
Yes, you pull the money from AP to your checking and use it to pay the credit card. However, while you're there you might as well send money from your card back to Venmo...

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #457 on: January 15, 2012, 03:54:01 AM »
You are asking on how to turn your CL into cash without the CA fees. It is the same as asking “How do I turn my CL into miles, points or cash back with little or no fees?” Every member wants the answer to this question. For small amounts ways have already been listed. To find ways to do this on a large scale is what everyone wants to know. If someone was to post this on a public forum it would get killed (kill the Golden Goose) in a matter of days. Certain ways are talked about on private forums but only after trust has been built between members that it will not be repeated. IMHO there are members here that belong to private forums and know exactly what I am talking about.

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #458 on: January 15, 2012, 11:10:45 AM »
so my friend just got a 1.00 charge @ ap does that make sence? he is doing me a favor and getting >:(

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #459 on: January 15, 2012, 11:11:46 AM »
so my friend just got a 1.00 charge @ ap does that make sence? he is doing me a favor and getting >:(

tia!
Charge for what?