Rosh Hashana davening...

[Ver hut gazugt]

+1 there Yom kippur break must be 4 hours!

this is pretty fast even compared to other chabad Shul’s, mine finished about 2:30-3:00.
Yom kippur about two hour break depends on the year.

[Dan]

this is pretty fast even compared to other chabad Shul’s, mine finished about 2:30-3:00.

That sounds slow to me. Do you have slow chazanim or what takes that much time?

[ExGingi]

Obviously no need for a break. Would be interesting to compare a Chabad Machzor to ours to see the differences.

IINM Chabad is the only Ashkenazi sect that doesn't skip anything in the machzor. It just doesn't have a lot of the extras in the first place.

[Dan]

IINM Chabad is the only Ashkenazi sect that doesn't skip anything in the machzor. It just doesn't have a lot of the extras in the first place.

770 davening times this year?

[EliJelly]

IINM Chabad is the only Ashkenazi sect that doesn't skip anything in the machzor. It just doesn't have a lot of the extras in the first place.

What do you mean, it's the Chabad press that skipped those?

[ExGingi]

770 davening times this year?

IINM ended around 2:45 on the first day. 2:30 second day. But I could be off by up to 10 minutes, didn't check the clock at the exact time.

[ExGingi]

What do you mean, it's the Chabad press that skipped those?

Ask @jj1000 he seems to be the expert on cutting out parts.

[EliJelly]

Ask @jj1000 he seems to be the expert on cutting out parts.

The truth is that with finishing 2:45 like in 770 then it isn't suppose to be any cuts at all, some nusach changes can make up that difference.

[Sam 77]

Nope
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3610.msg2497729#msg2497729

Absolutely insane!

[Definitions]

IINM Chabad is the only Ashkenazi sect that doesn't skip anything in the machzor. It just doesn't have a lot of the extras in the first place.

I think skver doesn't either

[aygart]

IINM Chabad is the only Ashkenazi sect that doesn't skip anything in the machzor. It just doesn't have a lot of the extras in the first place.

That is very easy when you print your own machzor.

[Definitions]

Most people afaik don't say the whole machzor. If so why do they print everything in machzorim? I still have no idea how people decide which piyutim to say (and remember which ones too). I heard that anything that wasn't composed by r Eleazar hakalir people don't say?

[aygart]

I heard that anything that wasn't composed by r Eleazar hakalir people don't say?

This is definitely not the case. I think everyone says Unsane tokef

[EliJelly]

Most people afaik don't say the whole machzor. If so why do they print everything in machzorim? I still have no idea how people decide which piyutim to say (and remember which ones too).

The yekkes say a lot. IINM in Vien shuls they say Marrovis.

I heard that anything that wasn't composed by r Eleazar hakalir people don't say?

I don't think this even makes sense, so much that he didn't compose. Did you ever hear of anyone skipping ונתנה תוקף?

Eta Aygart beat me to it

[chevron]

https://www.kikar.co.il/hasidism/428120


בחסידות צאנז סיימו את התפילות ביום א' דראש השנה בשעה 18:25, וביום השני בשעה 18:05.

Trying to understand what I'm missing? How does davening end at 6+?

Is there a seuda?

[good sam]

https://www.kikar.co.il/hasidism/428120


בחסידות צאנז סיימו את התפילות ביום א' דראש השנה בשעה 18:25, וביום השני בשעה 18:05.

Trying to understand what I'm missing? How does davening end at 6+?

Is there a seuda?

No seuda. There's a short break for kiddush and then back for Mincha.

[EliJelly]

No seuda. There's a short break for kiddush and then back for Mincha.

Hu? There is a chiyuv to wash and make a seuda. Even those who finish very late are making a (late quick) seuda of course.

[ExGingi]

The truth is that with finishing 2:45 like in 770 then it isn't suppose to be any cuts at all, some nusach changes can make up that difference.

We don't skip anything in the machzor, but then there are things that are not printed in the machzor..

There are also things upon which we don't need @jj1000 to wield an axe, we have הגבלה עצמית (which IMHO is a core part of Yiddishkeit and Chassidus).

[Sam Finkelstein]

The yekkes say a lot. IINM in Vien shuls they say Marrovis.

The yekke Machzor actually has less than the regular one, but they just say all of it. Same for Yom Tov.

[elazarb]

Most people afaik don't say the whole machzor. If so why do they print everything in machzorim? I still have no idea how people decide which piyutim to say (and remember which ones too). I heard that anything that wasn't composed by r Eleazar hakalir people don't say?

the gerrer rebbe was once asked by a chassid, "there are so many things in the machzor we don't say. Why don't we just print a new machzor that only includes what we say?" He responded, " And take away the Simcha a Yid gets when he skips a page of davening?"