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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1180 on: August 16, 2018, 02:33:32 PM »
The make many types of Wiskey, rum, vodka tequila ect. Are they all not kosher?

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1181 on: August 16, 2018, 04:57:54 PM »
The make many types of Wiskey, rum, vodka tequila ect. Are they all not kosher?
I would assume anything that didn't have chametz in it would be treated the same as any other company but that's just my assumption, I could be wrong.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1182 on: August 16, 2018, 04:58:56 PM »
I would assume anything that didn't have chametz in it would be treated the same as any other company but that's just my assumption, I could be wrong.
IINM it all has chometz
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1183 on: August 16, 2018, 05:00:36 PM »
IINM it all has chometz
Unless they're reusing barrels, why would their rum and tequila have chametz in them?
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1184 on: August 17, 2018, 03:28:38 AM »
Unless they're reusing barrels, why would their rum and tequila have chametz in them?
Even if they are, wouldn't be enough to assur

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1185 on: August 17, 2018, 04:07:42 AM »
Even if they are, wouldn't be enough to assur
So then what could be the issue with them?
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1186 on: August 17, 2018, 07:17:26 AM »
So then what could be the issue with them?
I doubt that it's any different than any rum or tequila.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1187 on: August 19, 2018, 11:04:56 AM »
Who would know? This is big deal

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1188 on: August 19, 2018, 05:07:30 PM »
Who would know? This is big deal
CRC?
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1190 on: August 20, 2018, 01:29:07 AM »
CRC?
their list is updated very regularly. looks like the sazerac beer is under vaad of KC
http://www.crcweb.org/LiquorList.pdf

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1191 on: August 21, 2018, 09:04:00 AM »
Does anyone know the issue with Allagash beer? I used to see it on tap at kosher places but now it's popping up on non-approved lists.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1192 on: August 21, 2018, 02:48:20 PM »
Does anyone know the issue with Allagash beer? I used to see it on tap at kosher places but now it's popping up on non-approved lists.
theres a lot of inconsistency with hefeweizens it seems. shock top is "not recommended" by many yet i see it sold in certain supermarkets and Graze has a shock top jerky flavor.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1193 on: August 21, 2018, 11:35:56 PM »
theres a lot of inconsistency with hefeweizens it seems. shock top is "not recommended" by many yet i see it sold in certain supermarkets and Graze has a shock top jerky flavor.
Seeing something sold in a kosher supermarket should not be an indication of it's kashrus when it comes to alcohol.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1194 on: August 22, 2018, 12:40:41 AM »
Unless the store has its own Hashgocha, seeing something sold in a kosher supermarket should not be an indication of it's kashrus when it comes to anything.
FTFY

Regardless of where a store is, it’s not only selling to you and your standards. What one Jew considers Kosher might be Chas Ve’sholom to another.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1195 on: August 22, 2018, 04:01:08 AM »
FTFY

Regardless of where a store is, it’s not only selling to you and your standards. What one Jew considers Kosher might be Chas Ve’sholom to another.
That is true but I was purely referring to alcohol across the board, I didn't want to bring up general kashrus.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1196 on: August 22, 2018, 08:23:17 AM »
FTFY

Regardless of where a store is, it’s not only selling to you and your standards. What one Jew considers Kosher might be Chas Ve’sholom to another.
+1000000000

I have seen Lakewood stores selling items which were plain rabanut even on pesach. The clientele who would knowingly buy that is miniscule there.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1197 on: August 22, 2018, 09:01:06 AM »
Seeing something sold in a kosher supermarket should not be an indication of it's kashrus when it comes to alcohol.

A restaurant having something is more telling, and Graze is a restaurant.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1198 on: August 22, 2018, 09:13:47 AM »
There is so much confusion with alcohol in general.

When a list says 'not recommended' they should explain the reason why, so ppl can make a decison for themselves (ex. Sherry cask).
Imho, when they write 'not recommended' on bottles like glenlivet 18 or glenfiddich 12, 15, 18 etc, w/o reasoning when most ppl drink these, it cheapens the whole list and ppl disregard it.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1199 on: August 22, 2018, 09:45:39 AM »
There is so much confusion with alcohol in general.

When a list says 'not recommended' they should explain the reason why, so ppl can make a decison for themselves (ex. Sherry cask).
Imho, when they write 'not recommended' on bottles like glenlivet 18 or glenfiddich 12, 15, 18 etc, w/o reasoning when most ppl drink these, it cheapens the whole list and ppl disregard it.

There's also so many vague terms like "Acceptable", "Recommended", "Not Recommended", and then some missing from lists entirely.

At the end of the day, I think there can really be only 3 reasons alcohol could ever be bad:

- Chametz SheAvar Alav HaPesach (rare for many things at point of manufacturer)
- Kosher sensitive ingredients, such as grape products
- Potential cross-contamination with non-kosher ingredients

Really hard to figure out how those categories match to actual issues.