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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #480 on: July 17, 2015, 07:09:32 PM »
Whats the price for lagavulin ?
And do they come in 750ml ? Only 750ml ?

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #481 on: July 17, 2015, 08:47:57 PM »
Whats the price for lagavulin ?
And do they come in 750ml ? Only 750ml ?

Doesnt get much broader question wise. As a point of reference, Lagavulin 16 is in the $65-$70 range in the 750ml bottle.
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« Reply #482 on: July 20, 2015, 01:02:15 PM »
Is scotch kosher everywhere, or only in the US? Going to scotland and may want to visit some distilleries.

Also, any high-end kosher restaurants in Islay? Minyanim for shachris (vasikin)? Daf yomi shiur (with tosfos)?

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #483 on: July 20, 2015, 03:07:11 PM »
Is scotch kosher everywhere, or only in the US? Going to scotland and may want to visit some distilleries.

Also, any high-end kosher restaurants in Islay? Minyanim for shachris (vasikin)? Daf yomi shiur (with tosfos)?
http://cor.ca/assets/static/node/201409/files/541/RH.web2.pdf

"There has been much discussion and debate regarding the kosher status of scotch whiskeys that are aged in wine/sherry casks. Scotch whiskey, by definition1, contains only kosher ingredients. Notwithstanding, the spirit must be aged in an oak barrel for a minimum of three years. Scotch manufacturers generally reuse barrels that were previously used to store alcoholic beverages such as sherry, cognac, bourbon, rum or beer. The kashrut concern raised by the use of sherry or wine barrels is that the absorbed wine is almost certainly stam yaynom which is not kosher. Halachik clarification was required to determine whether or not this non-kosher taste that is absorbed in the barrel could render the Scotch as non-kosher.

COR has taken interest in clarifying this matter since it is apparent that many leading Rabbanim in our community are of the opinion that scotch aged in sherry casks is permitted for consumption. Over the last several years, COR has consulted with several industry and kashrut experts in an effort to research the involved issues and formulate a position on its halachik status.

COR further consulted with our community’s Rabbanim; including Rav Dovid Schochet shlit”a, President of the Vaad HaRabbonim and Rav Shlomo Miller shlit”a, Rosh Bais Din of Kollel Toronto amongst other leading Rabbanim, as well as COR’s Rabbinical Vaad Hakashruth. In light of the conclusions of our research and according to the guidance of our Rabbinical Vaad Hakashruth, COR policy will now allow the use of scotches aged in sherry casks at COR-certified venues and events. This policy applies only to scotch and not to other types of whiskey which may involve other halachik complexities including non-kosher wine or glycerin which can be mixed into the whiskey recipe.

Throughout the next several months, Mashgichim who supervise events that are using scotch aged in sherry casks will post signage at the bar indicating the status of the scotch."

not a new shaila Reb Moshe Feinstien zt"l held it was not a problem. bigger problem is the bourbon/chametz issue. it doesnt seem like there is any easy out of that one
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #484 on: July 20, 2015, 04:11:14 PM »
Doesnt get much broader question wise. As a point of reference, Lagavulin 16 is in the $65-$70 range in the 750ml bottle.

How about Glenlivet. I heard it is good  ;)

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #485 on: July 20, 2015, 04:49:52 PM »
My favorite bourbon:http://www.wine-searcher.com/find/peach+st+distil+straight+bourbon+whisky+colorado+usahttp://www.wine-searcher.com/find/peach+st+distil+straight+bourbon+whisky+colorado+usa it sells for much less in CO

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #486 on: July 20, 2015, 05:04:23 PM »
How about Glenlivet. I heard it is good  ;)

The 18 years is great.

I buy it in Duty free (Israel)
1st bottle $80
2nd   20% off
3rd   30% off

Plus now there's a coupon $50 off when buying $300 at once (need to redeem online)
And every $800 you spend over 12 months you get back $100  (12% off)

=$47 a bottle  :D :D :D

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #487 on: July 20, 2015, 05:06:39 PM »
I like the Glen 15 better than the 18.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #488 on: July 20, 2015, 05:08:56 PM »
I like the Glen 15 better than the 18.
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Everyone says that.
I Can do six shots in a row of 15 but not so much of 18.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #489 on: July 20, 2015, 09:27:18 PM »
What is a good vodka besides grey goose? (not for mixing)

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #490 on: July 20, 2015, 09:29:05 PM »

What is a good vodka besides grey goose? (not for mixing)
Russian standard. 

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #491 on: July 20, 2015, 10:02:25 PM »
Russian standard.
Thanks anybody else agrees? Is it hard to find in NY/NJ ?

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #492 on: July 20, 2015, 10:07:23 PM »
Thanks anybody else agrees? Is it hard to find in NY/NJ ?

Titos, Belvedere... More classics

Any store will have these

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #493 on: July 20, 2015, 10:15:07 PM »
bourbon - 1792. anybody know the kashrus matsav behind it?
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #494 on: July 20, 2015, 10:33:01 PM »
bourbon - 1792. anybody know the kashrus matsav behind it?
Chametz issues if purchased after pesach 2009


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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #495 on: July 20, 2015, 11:09:40 PM »
Chametz issues if purchased after pesach 2009
is it so pashut that thats it?
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #496 on: July 20, 2015, 11:27:34 PM »
not a new shaila Reb Moshe Feinstien zt"l held it was not a problem. bigger problem is the bourbon/chametz issue. it doesnt seem like there is any easy out of that one
To my knowledge there is no psak from Reb Moshe on Sherry Casks. Please provide mareh makom

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #497 on: July 20, 2015, 11:30:20 PM »
is it so pashut that thats it?
that what's it? Company was definitely purchased by a Jew who doesn't sell his chametz. The consensus of all poskim is that whiskey is chametz. Unless it's more than 5/6 corn, or you want to be someich on an unspoke hava amina in the noda beyihudah, I think it would be chametz sheavar alav hapesach. I'd be eager to hear another heter.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #498 on: July 20, 2015, 11:44:22 PM »
1) If you hold whiskey isn't chometz.
2) If you hold chametz @ 1/60th becomes butul before pesach.
Not backed up at all. Just contemplating.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #499 on: July 21, 2015, 01:45:09 AM »
1) If you hold whiskey isn't chometz.
2) If you hold chametz @ 1/60th becomes butul before pesach.
Not backed up at all. Just contemplating.
1)The only tzad heter to my knowledge say that whiskey isn't chametz (or my correctly, is chametz nuksha, or zeas chametz) is a tzad of a shoel in a noda beyehuda. In the teshuva the NB has a workaround and doesn't address the point. hardly an endorsement. There may be a biur halacha that brings this as a non halachic point, but I couldn't find it last time round. 
2) 1/60th batel before pesach helps how? I did ten times better for you, I said if it's ,ore than 5/6 corn (1/6) you can drink it.