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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #640 on: March 22, 2016, 02:00:48 AM »
I've been wanting to compile a list of safe bar drinks for a while.  What I have in my head so far :
Gin and tonic (my go to plane drink also)
Rum and coke
Paloma (tequila and Fresca) if they use a white tequila
Basic Screwdriver assuming the oj is kosher (minute maid or Tropicana from what I've heard )
Whiskey ginger
Amaretto ginger (as per Dan)



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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #641 on: March 22, 2016, 02:40:00 AM »
I've been wanting to compile a list of safe bar drinks for a while.  What I have in my head so far :
Gin and tonic (my go to plane drink also)
Rum and coke
Paloma (tequila and Fresca) if they use a white tequila
Basic Screwdriver assuming the oj is kosher (minute maid or Tropicana from what I've heard )
Whiskey ginger
Amaretto ginger (as per Dan)
My go to drink is whiskey sour

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #642 on: March 22, 2016, 07:39:54 AM »

My go to drink is whiskey sour

I do enjoy a good whisky sour!
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #643 on: March 22, 2016, 09:28:19 AM »
My go to drink is whiskey sour
Do they usually use natural ingredients only? (I in no way mean this in an accusatory tone, would like to know for myself.)

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #644 on: March 22, 2016, 09:44:20 AM »
Do they usually use natural ingredients only? (I in no way mean this in an accusatory tone, would like to know for myself.)
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #645 on: March 22, 2016, 10:01:26 AM »
Don't some places use a sour "mix"?
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #646 on: March 22, 2016, 10:32:03 AM »
Don't some places use a sour "mix"?
I've heard that but all places I've gone to so far use all natural ingredients

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #647 on: March 23, 2016, 02:29:24 AM »
I've heard that but all places I've gone to so far use all natural ingredients
You do have to check the bourbon,  and the cherry.  Otherwise indeed list worthy.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #648 on: March 23, 2016, 07:47:59 AM »
Point being?
חמץ שעבר עליו הפסח.
All whiskey is aged over many years, if it was under Jewish ownership at any point and not properly sold for pesach it would be forbidden.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #649 on: March 23, 2016, 11:37:32 AM »
חמץ שעבר עליו הפסח.
All whiskey is aged over many years, if it was under Jewish ownership at any point and not properly sold for pesach it would be forbidden.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #650 on: March 23, 2016, 11:43:46 AM »
חמץ שעבר עליו הפסח.
All whiskey is aged over many years, if it was under Jewish ownership at any point and not properly sold for pesach it would be forbidden.
Ask your LOR. R' Shlomo Miller holds bourbon is never a chametz problem as it must legally be over %50 corn thus being chametz dirabanan which will not be a problem. Heard from him personally.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #651 on: March 23, 2016, 11:50:28 AM »
Ask your LOR. R' Shlomo Miller holds bourbon is never a chametz problem as it must legally be over %50 corn thus being chametz dirabanan which will not be a problem. Heard from him personally.
Just curious...but why isn't there a problem with the other grains in the bourbon? Is it batul?

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #652 on: March 23, 2016, 12:07:24 PM »
Just curious...but why isn't there a problem with the other grains in the bourbon? Is it batul?
Bitul brov works for chametz sheavar es hapesach.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #653 on: March 27, 2016, 12:28:30 AM »
Ask your LOR. R' Shlomo Miller holds bourbon is never a chametz problem as it must legally be over %50 corn thus being chametz dirabanan which will not be a problem. Heard from him personally.
Not doubting your quote, but would be considered to be a chidush since there commonly is chametz (fermented barley) which is an integral part of the process it wouldn't be batel. That is the opinion on the AKO, which represents most North American Kashrus Organizations.  This seems to be clear in the Mishna Berura as well (442:27). http://www.crcweb.org/Whisky%20Alert%20with%20Q&A%20(Sep%202010).pdf
Is it possible the question posed to Rav Miller was from someone who already owned the questionable bourbon? That would be very different, because we are meikel on chametz sheaver alav hapesach derabanan in a case of hefsed. that would not apply to someone who was buying it already ipso facto.
It may also be true that the well intentioned person who did the research on this did the community a disservice since there isn't really a chiyuv to be mevarer the ownership. But once it's done it's done.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #654 on: March 27, 2016, 12:59:56 AM »
 R' Miller was saying about buying bourbon after Pesach (or all year round for that matter, since any Bourbon you will buy will be aver alav hapesach..)

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #655 on: March 27, 2016, 01:43:32 AM »
R' Miller was saying about buying bourbon after Pesach (or all year round for that matter, since any Bourbon you will buy will be aver alav hapesach..)
If you have the opportunity to speak to him again, I'd be grateful if you could ask him why he disagrees with the Mishna Berura, or why he thinks this is different.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #656 on: April 01, 2016, 08:35:23 AM »
I just had Wild Turkey American Spirit 15 year. I am looking to buy a bottle but it is hard to find. Anyone know someone who can source it?

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #657 on: April 04, 2016, 11:40:15 PM »
i am not sure if there is a thread for this, but is there a list of good Kosher for Pesach alcohol?
its almost that time of the year,
thanks

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #658 on: April 05, 2016, 12:12:11 AM »
i am not sure if there is a thread for this, but is there a list of good Kosher for Pesach alcohol?
its almost that time of the year,
thanks
Have you ever tried the Louis royer cognac

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #659 on: April 05, 2016, 01:27:41 AM »
Have you ever tried the Louis royer cognac
There are 3 different versions at 3 different prices, the priciest at almost $150.