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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1155 on: August 15, 2018, 09:38:20 AM »
Blantons is kosher. Delicious bourbon.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1156 on: August 15, 2018, 09:42:54 AM »
Blantons is kosher. Delicious bourbon.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1157 on: August 15, 2018, 09:56:05 AM »
Anyone know if this is a kosher bottle?

Seems it had it's own barrel which would avoid יין נסך problems.

Bourbon almost never has any shailos of יין נסך
You have to ask your lor bc the buffalo trace distillery that this bottle comes from is a shaila
This is a bigger issue than יין נסך and is quite common in bourbon
Blantons is kosher. Delicious bourbon.
The Star-K disagrees.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1158 on: August 15, 2018, 10:04:33 AM »
Blantons is kosher. Delicious bourbon.
its owned by a jew/ chometz she'avar.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1159 on: August 15, 2018, 05:12:00 PM »
its owned by a jew/ chometz she'avar.
   That being true that means even if the bottle was kosher I would still have a problem of חמץ שעבר על פסח?
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1160 on: August 15, 2018, 06:00:42 PM »
   That being true that means even if the bottle was kosher I would still have a problem of חמץ שעבר על פסח?
That's why it's not kosher.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1161 on: August 15, 2018, 06:03:31 PM »
That's why it's not kosher.
IIRC the person who gave it to me picked it up from a Jewish store, but your saying it's not kosher.
  Is there any kashrus agency to ask regarding this bottle?
  I doubt my lor would know about this bottle.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1162 on: August 15, 2018, 06:15:14 PM »
IIRC the person who gave it to me picked it up from a Jewish store, but your saying it's not kosher.
  Is there any kashrus agency to ask regarding this bottle?
  I doubt my lor would know about this bottle.
The star-k list says it's not recommended. You can ask your LOR about the chametz sheovar issue in general.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1163 on: August 15, 2018, 06:20:47 PM »
The star-k list says it's not recommended. You can ask your LOR about the chametz sheovar issue in general.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1164 on: August 16, 2018, 12:17:57 AM »
IIRC the person who gave it to me picked it up from a Jewish store, but your saying it's not kosher.
  Is there any kashrus agency to ask regarding this bottle?
  I doubt my lor would know about this bottle.
Some Poskim hold itís not a problem, since bourbon is only kitniyos sheavar Pesach.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1165 on: August 16, 2018, 12:21:00 AM »
Some Poskim hold itís not a problem, since bourbon is only kitniyos sheavar Pesach.
Didnt think of that, interesting to hear that there's 2 sides to the argument, I guess that's why you should ask your LOR.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1166 on: August 16, 2018, 12:55:17 AM »
https://oukosher.org/publications/bourbon-sheavar-hapesach/

The Sazerac company brands, including buffalo trace, blantons, eagle rare, pappy and many more, owned by the Goldring family, don't sell their chometz and thats where problems arise.
However the Heaven Hill brand(Parker's, evan williams, elijah craig), owned by the shapira family, sell their chometz and is kosher-see star-k list.
All other major bourbon brands are owned by non-jews.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1167 on: August 16, 2018, 01:32:32 AM »
https://oukosher.org/publications/bourbon-sheavar-hapesach/

The Sazerac company brands, including buffalo trace, blantons, eagle rare, pappy and many more, owned by the Goldring family, don't sell their chometz and thats where problems arise.
However the Heaven Hill brand(Parker's, evan williams, elijah craig), owned by the shapira family, sell their chometz and is kosher-see star-k list.
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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1168 on: August 16, 2018, 01:42:07 AM »
Thanks.
Sure.
I'm assuming there's an argument the other way, because most kosher stores sell these products, I just haven't heard it yet. All kashrus lists 'do not recommend' them.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2018, 01:45:32 AM by kayjay »

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1169 on: August 16, 2018, 03:37:59 AM »
Some Poskim hold itís not a problem, since bourbon is only kitniyos sheavar Pesach.
Didnt think of that, interesting to hear that there's 2 sides to the argument, I guess that's why you should ask your LOR.
This is inaccurate, bourbon has actual chametz. Bourbon mash has to be 51% corn, and usually contains rye or barley as a significant second ingredient. There is a different heter, not to buy, but to keep, because of hefsed, discussed on the forums previously.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2018, 03:43:40 AM by thaber »