Author Topic: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread  (Read 237489 times)

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1360 on: January 20, 2021, 09:56:36 PM »
Thanks for posting!
This is the cheapest I have ever seen! (The few wines that I looked at.)
Price is ok if you factor shipping and tax which can sometimes be avoided ..

Edit
https://idrinkkosher.com/shipping/

Shipping can be avoided and and or almost free
« Last Edit: January 20, 2021, 09:59:49 PM by Joel »

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1361 on: January 20, 2021, 09:59:31 PM »
Price is ok if you factor shipping and tax which can sometimes be avoided ..
Of course shipping kills it.
but when I'm in that area I'll definitely stock up.

How can tax be avoided?
« Last Edit: January 20, 2021, 10:02:59 PM by pointer »

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1362 on: January 20, 2021, 10:00:46 PM »
How tax be avoided
Some stores will give you a cash discount and price will be inclusive

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1363 on: January 20, 2021, 10:01:18 PM »
Some stores will give you a cash discount and price will be inclusive
Interesting.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1364 on: January 20, 2021, 10:03:07 PM »
Thanks for posting!
This is the cheapest I have ever seen! (The few wines that I looked at.)
Amazing prices on whiskeys as well. Way cheaper than CA on bourbons

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1365 on: January 20, 2021, 10:04:23 PM »
Interesting.
Kosherwine.com never charged tax to NY in the past.
It changed recently also shipped on cases is still free
« Last Edit: January 20, 2021, 10:08:24 PM by Joel »

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1366 on: January 21, 2021, 12:23:57 PM »
Amazing prices on whiskeys as well. Way cheaper than CA on bourbons
Not from what I see. Which Bourbons?

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1367 on: January 21, 2021, 03:01:01 PM »
So classy to find a non kosher bottle on a website like that.

Case in point: Sazerac rye.
This is the subject of a major halachik debate, you definitely shouldn't go around calling speaking that way about them.

That being said, you definitely shouldn't assume something fits your standards because the website has the word kosher in it.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1368 on: January 21, 2021, 03:33:57 PM »
Not from what I see. Which Bourbons?
A bunch... basil $35, normally low $40s. willet good price. woodford 32

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1369 on: January 21, 2021, 04:04:48 PM »
A bunch... basil $35, normally low $40s. willet good price. woodford 32
After shipping your over local store prices

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1370 on: January 21, 2021, 04:26:28 PM »
After shipping your over local store prices
Ya, someone picks up for me...

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1371 on: January 21, 2021, 07:26:29 PM »
This is the subject of a major halachik debate, you definitely shouldn't go around calling speaking that way about them.

That being said, you definitely shouldn't assume something fits your standards because the website has the word kosher in it.

There are a few heimish wine stores in brooklyn that sell non-kosher fyi. The rye you mentioned i believe its AYLOR

I know that heimish stores sell it and others in the category of companies owned and operated by jews who specifically don't sell their chometz. That does not mean they are permitted or that we are permitted to consume chametz shavar.... For those that do not know I am referring under the company sazarc or bufulo trace (besides the one that says KOSHER on it) which each include dozens of brands. I never herd of a any OR that permits this, can you please share the name of one?

PSA: not interested in a halachik debate just a name. DMs welcome.




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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1372 on: January 22, 2021, 09:39:57 AM »
I know that heimish stores sell it and others in the category of companies owned and operated by jews who specifically don't sell their chometz. That does not mean they are permitted or that we are permitted to consume chametz shavar.... For those that do not know I am referring under the company sazarc or bufulo trace (besides the one that says KOSHER on it) which each include dozens of brands. I never herd of a any OR that permits this, can you please share the name of one?

PSA: not interested in a halachik debate just a name. DMs welcome.
The psak I received was muttar b'shas hadechak. Shas hadechak includes if you already own it or if you're at an event and that's what they have.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1373 on: January 25, 2021, 06:22:01 PM »
The psak I received was muttar b'shas hadechak. Shas hadechak includes if you already own it or if you're at an event and that's what they have.

Chametz She'avar is a knas that applies to the seller who owned it over Pesach. It applies downstream to all other retailers (if owned by a Jewish manufacturer or wholesaler).

While I can understand psak that says that if you bought it without knowing that it was Chametz She'avar its OK because of hefsed merubah, what would be the rationale for allowing you to drink it "if you're at an event and that's what they have." You did not buy it and you are suffering no financial loss by not drinking it.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1374 on: January 25, 2021, 07:08:31 PM »
It applies downstream to all other retailers (if owned by a Jewish manufacturer or wholesaler).

I don't remember a marei makom, but I believe there are poskim who disagree with this statement.

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1375 on: January 25, 2021, 07:14:57 PM »
I don't remember a marei makom, but I believe there are poskim who disagree with this statement.

This is the reason that there is a problem buying in non-Jewish owned stores in certain markets after Pesach. In Baltimore you can't buy chametz from Target because the wholesaler is Jewish owned and they owned the chametz over Pesach. In NY the OK got involved and prepared a shtar mechirah for C&S (a major grocery wholesaler) because they are Jewish owned.

This was also the reason that a few years back people could not buy certain beer brands after Pesach in many markets because Manhattan Beer (a major beer distributor) was Jewish owned. - https://crownheights.info/chabad-news/636900/large-beer-distributor-sells-chametz-for-second-year/

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1376 on: January 25, 2021, 08:05:18 PM »
1) The מגן האלף (unlike the M"b) holds that there is no din of חמץ שעבר עליו הפסח by a non religious Jew since he wouldn't keep Pesach anyways.

2) It is far from clear that distilled liquor is Chometz. While on Pesach it is potentially a דאורייתא and we are for sure machmir, after Pesach the issur is at most Derbanen and the פני יהושע was matir for that reason in extenuating circumstances

https://www.yeshiva.org.il/wiki/index.php/דרשני:כשרות_ויסקי_שעבר_עליו_הפסח_(Zvi_Ryzman)

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1377 on: March 08, 2021, 08:36:33 AM »
Has anyone seen/had any kosher for pesach adult beverages that give off some peat taste/smell?

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Re: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« Reply #1378 on: March 08, 2021, 09:18:11 AM »
Chametz She'avar is a knas that applies to the seller who owned it over Pesach. It applies downstream to all other retailers (if owned by a Jewish manufacturer or wholesaler).

While I can understand psak that says that if you bought it without knowing that it was Chametz She'avar its OK because of hefsed merubah, what would be the rationale for allowing you to drink it "if you're at an event and that's what they have." You did not buy it and you are suffering no financial loss by not drinking it.
The psak was not necessarily because of hefsed merubah.
2) It is far from clear that distilled liquor is Chometz. While on Pesach it is potentially a דאורייתא and we are for sure machmir, after Pesach the issur is at most Derbanen and the פני יהושע was matir for that reason in extenuating circumstances
I believe it's something along these lines. I was also told that the main reason people who don't sell chametz do sell whisky is because it's not chametz gamur, it's ze'as chametz.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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