Author Topic: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?  (Read 497517 times)

Offline Aussie

  • Dansdeals Silver Elite
  • **
  • Join Date: Jul 2008
  • Posts: 93
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1460 on: January 16, 2018, 10:12:46 AM »
Correct refinancing will not increase the AAA and liabilities in a S-Corp don’t give you basis unless it’s recourse. Most mortgages and not recourse.

So there’s nothing to do? If he wants the mortgage he has to pay tax on borrowed money as if it were income? Sounds so unfair. Thanks btw

Offline Aussie

  • Dansdeals Silver Elite
  • **
  • Join Date: Jul 2008
  • Posts: 93
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1461 on: January 16, 2018, 10:14:00 AM »
I thought most mortgages make somebody sign a personal guarantee. Does that not equal recourse?

Most commercial real estate loans are non recourse, but with “bad boy” carve outs in cases where the borrower does something outrageous like stealing money from the company etc.

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 6738
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1462 on: January 25, 2018, 01:52:04 PM »
I am using TurboTax. I entered my SSA-1099. It is treating it as taxable. AFAIK it should be non-taxable since I only received SS for the months after I retired in 2017. HELP!!!
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline AtallD

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 271
  • Total likes: 11
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1463 on: January 25, 2018, 01:57:22 PM »
I am using TurboTax. I entered my SSA-1099. It is treating it as taxable. AFAIK it should be non-taxable since I only received SS for the months after I retired in 2017. HELP!!!

Is that your only source of income?
Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) includes half of your Social Security, plus other sources of income. Once your MAGI exceeds the base amount for your filing status ($32,000 for Married Filing Jointly, otherwise $25,000), at least part of your Social Security income becomes taxable. The taxable portion of your Social Security income increases once you reach additional MAGI threshholds.

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 6738
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1464 on: January 25, 2018, 02:02:46 PM »
Is that your only source of income?
Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) includes half of your Social Security, plus other sources of income. Once your MAGI exceeds the base amount for your filing status ($32,000 for Married Filing Jointly, otherwise $25,000), at least part of your Social Security income becomes taxable. The taxable portion of your Social Security income increases once you reach additional MAGI threshholds.
I worked the first 7 months of the year. I thought as long as I didn't make x amount of dollars each month I received SS it would be non-taxable. I had no earned income for the last 5 months I received SS.
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline AtallD

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 271
  • Total likes: 11
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1465 on: January 25, 2018, 02:34:19 PM »
I worked the first 7 months of the year. I thought as long as I didn't make x amount of dollars each month I received SS it would be non-taxable. I had no earned income for the last 5 months I received SS.
I think you may be mixing up taxable income with early retirement supplemental income limits. If you are collecting Social Security retirement benefits before full retirement age, your benefits are reduced by $1 for every $2 you earn over the limit ($16,920 ($1,410 per month))

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 6738
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1466 on: January 25, 2018, 02:38:12 PM »
I think you may be mixing up taxable income with early retirement supplemental income limits. If you are collecting Social Security retirement benefits before full retirement age, your benefits are reduced by $1 for every $2 you earn over the limit ($16,920 ($1,410 per month))
That's it. If I collect the same year I retire I cant make more than 1410/mo. I made zero for the last five months of the year I collected SS. Shouldn't it all be non-taxable (retired at 62)?
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline AtallD

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 271
  • Total likes: 11
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1467 on: January 25, 2018, 02:42:14 PM »
That's it. If I collect the same year I retire I cant make more than 1410/mo. I made zero for the last five months of the year I collected SS. Shouldn't it all be non-taxable (retired at 62)?
This a separate limit/penalty set by the SSA where the benefits you receive when collecting before full retirement age can be reduced if you earn more than the limit; it has nothing to do with taxable/non-taxable

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 6738
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1468 on: January 25, 2018, 02:48:21 PM »
This a separate limit/penalty set by the SSA where the benefits you receive when collecting before full retirement age can be reduced if you earn more than the limit; it has nothing to do with taxable/non-taxable
Lets see if I have this right. We will just take round figures. I made 100k the first 7 months, retired and started SS in the 8th month. Had no earnings month 8-12 that I received SS. I will not receive a penalty on my SS but it will be taxable?
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline AtallD

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 271
  • Total likes: 11
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1469 on: January 25, 2018, 03:08:27 PM »
Lets see if I have this right. We will just take round figures. I made 100k the first 7 months, retired and started SS in the 8th month. Had no earnings month 8-12 that I received SS. I will not receive a penalty on my SS but it will be taxable?
That is correct - Although only a portion of your SS income  (up to 85%) will be taxable - depending on your circumstances
You can see the worksheet here:  https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p915.pdf

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 6738
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1470 on: January 25, 2018, 03:09:51 PM »
That is correct - Although only a portion of your SS income  (up to 85%) will be taxable - depending on your circumstances
You can see the worksheet here:  https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p915.pdf
Thank you for your help. I should have asked these questions last year.  :-[
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline AtallD

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 271
  • Total likes: 11
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1471 on: January 25, 2018, 03:19:45 PM »
Thank you for your help. I should have asked these questions last year.  :-[

Where should I send the bill to? ;)

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 6738
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1472 on: January 25, 2018, 03:35:02 PM »
Where should I send the bill to? ;)
irs.gov or better yet liteblue.usps.gov  :)
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline Jack out of the box

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2015
  • Posts: 754
  • Total likes: 70
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: ארצינו הקדושה
  • Programs: Chase UR, BA Avios, AAdvantage, UA Mileage Plus, SPG
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1473 on: January 28, 2018, 04:35:24 AM »
Thank you for your help. I should have asked these questions last year.  :-[
Exactly!
Maximizing your SS benefits is very complicated so it's a good idea to plan ahead involving the services of a professional who is experienced in that specific field.
הצלחה

Offline jackofall

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Nov 2012
  • Posts: 772
  • Total likes: 45
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1474 on: February 08, 2018, 01:03:42 PM »
the first question would be what type of NFP
1-shul
2-school
3- Public Charity
4 Private Foundation

next question would be
over $50k in annual revenue or under

If it is a shul I have a couple of questions. Do we need to own a property/shul or rent is good enough?
From the 1023-ez instructions it seems that "synagogues done need to file any 1023!? If so how do they obtain NFP status.
Thansk for the help.
If you focus on being a boss, you will never be a leader. Leaders lead people to growth and improvement.

Offline Dawie

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 1613
  • Total likes: 492
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: KBLM
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1475 on: February 08, 2018, 01:22:25 PM »
If it is a shul I have a couple of questions. Do we need to own a property/shul or rent is good enough?
From the 1023-ez instructions it seems that "synagogues done need to file any 1023!? If so how do they obtain NFP status.
Thansk for the help.
rent is enough (one of the main points are  established places of worship, regular congregations,  regular religious services)
see IRS pub. 1828- shuls are by law already 501c3, they are NFP when the incorporate under NJ Corp Law 15a or 16
they just dont have the IRS determination (and wont be listed in Pub 78 or on Guidestar.
As long as they really are a shul as defined in American Guidance Foundation, Inc. v. United States

Offline jackofall

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Nov 2012
  • Posts: 772
  • Total likes: 45
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1476 on: February 08, 2018, 01:41:49 PM »
rent is enough (one of the main points are  established places of worship, regular congregations,  regular religious services)
see IRS pub. 1828- shuls are by law already 501c3, they are NFP when the incorporate under NJ Corp Law 15a or 16
they just dont have the IRS determination (and wont be listed in Pub 78 or on Guidestar.
As long as they really are a shul as defined in American Guidance Foundation, Inc. v. United States
Thanks for this info. Really appreciate it.
Quick question, I am quoting 1828
"Although there is no requirement to do so, many churches seek recognition of tax-exempt status from the IRS because this recognition assures church leaders, members and contributors that the church is recognized as exempt and qualifies for related tax benefits. For example, contributors to a church that has been
recognized as tax exempt would know that their contributions generally are
tax-deductible."
How would I do this?
How do I know if I did this "they are NFP when the incorporate under NJ Corp Law 15a or 16", ?
If you focus on being a boss, you will never be a leader. Leaders lead people to growth and improvement.

Offline Dawie

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 1613
  • Total likes: 492
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: KBLM
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1477 on: February 08, 2018, 02:10:12 PM »
Thanks for this info. Really appreciate it.
Quick question, I am quoting 1828
"Although there is no requirement to do so, many churches seek recognition of tax-exempt status from the IRS because this recognition assures church leaders, members and contributors that the church is recognized as exempt and qualifies for related tax benefits. For example, contributors to a church that has been
recognized as tax exempt would know that their contributions generally are
tax-deductible."
How would I do this?
How do I know if I did this "they are NFP when the incorporate under NJ Corp Law 15a or 16", ?
Form 1023

look at your incorporation it should say on it (most are done under 15a)

Offline jackofall

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Nov 2012
  • Posts: 772
  • Total likes: 45
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1478 on: February 08, 2018, 02:21:44 PM »
Form 1023

look at your incorporation it should say on it (most are done under 15a)
So cant use 1023-ez if under 50k?
On the formation doc? I dont see
If you focus on being a boss, you will never be a leader. Leaders lead people to growth and improvement.

Offline Dawie

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 1613
  • Total likes: 492
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: KBLM
Re: any accountants out there that i can ask a question?
« Reply #1479 on: February 08, 2018, 05:04:50 PM »
So cant use 1023-ez if under 50k?
On the formation doc? I dont see
you cant use a 1023ez for a shul at all
can you PM it to me?