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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1720 on: January 29, 2019, 02:59:25 PM »
http://crownheights.info/crown-heights-news/631045/dozens-burned-in-swipes-for-points-scheme/?fbclid=IwAR1izq7OAVavnggu4YR-wc5z9Mwhd8oWn2E6cX9_cMbc9wL9skXALYyN1Rc

Can anyone tell me in a what this article was about? I understand they removed it to protect victims but I would like to know what happened.

TIA

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1721 on: January 29, 2019, 04:30:03 PM »
Can anyone tell me in a what this article was about? I understand they removed it to protect victims but I would like to know what happened.

TIA

Try this;

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:i8C4tmFvZCIJ:crownheights.info/crown-heights-news/631045/dozens-burned-in-swipes-for-points-scheme/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1723 on: January 29, 2019, 05:02:52 PM »
Damn smells like a NSA job, it's gone!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1724 on: January 29, 2019, 05:14:15 PM »
Damn smells like a NSA job, it's gone!
Wasn't online long enough to be cached

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1725 on: January 29, 2019, 05:38:18 PM »
Wasn't online long enough to be cached
Long enough for me to download:)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1726 on: January 29, 2019, 05:44:01 PM »
Long enough for me to download:)

Post it here :)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1727 on: January 29, 2019, 05:44:42 PM »
Long enough for me to download:)
can you post it here please?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1728 on: January 29, 2019, 05:46:31 PM »
can you post it here please?
Was advised not to put it online

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1729 on: January 29, 2019, 05:53:10 PM »
Advised by?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1730 on: January 29, 2019, 05:55:19 PM »
Was advised not to put it online
Inbox flooded ;)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1731 on: January 29, 2019, 06:01:04 PM »
Quote from: YitzyS
Quotes in a signature is annoying, as it comes across as an independent post.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1733 on: January 29, 2019, 07:47:09 PM »
Long enough for me to download:)

Why would you say that you downloaded it if you don’t intend to share it?

Also, were names named in the article? If not, why was it taken down?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1734 on: January 29, 2019, 08:53:22 PM »
Why would you say that you downloaded it if you don’t intend to share it?

Also, were names named in the article? If not, why was it taken down?
Sorry to all. I downloaded cause I was certain it would go down and was gonna think about it later.
I spoke to a few people who got screwed and they asked me to not share cause it doesn't need any more publicity
So sorry to all those that pm'd but I will not be sharing it.
And to all those that did see it it underplayed the situation by allot

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1735 on: January 29, 2019, 09:25:28 PM »
they asked me to not share cause it doesn't need any more publicity
This attitude is exactly why we keep having these stories.

ETA: this wasn't meant as a knock on you. If I were asked by people involved not to share it I probably wouldn't either. I'm talking about the idea in general.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1736 on: January 29, 2019, 09:41:43 PM »
This attitude is exactly why we keep having these stories.

ETA: this wasn't meant as a knock on you. If I were asked by people involved not to share it I probably wouldn't either. I'm talking about the idea in general.
I agree and that was my initial thought. However in this sensitive time I decided to listen to these people Whether or not it's the right thing

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1737 on: January 29, 2019, 09:54:49 PM »
I read it when it went up, did not have more information than what was shared here upthread.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1738 on: January 29, 2019, 09:56:15 PM »
I read it when it went up, did not have more information than what was shared here upthread.
But the potential comment section ::)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1739 on: January 29, 2019, 10:00:33 PM »
I read it when it went up, did not have more information than what was shared here upthread.

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