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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4360 on: December 01, 2021, 03:16:51 PM »
Anyone have success ordering from dell, Office Depot, Best Buy, Walmart, target and having items shipped to DE?
I've had on and off success with Dell to DE. Target I've had majority of orders to OR get through. I don't remember if I did to DE, I haven't had any successfully ship but I don't try often.
DP for which of the above mentioned store/s?
Best Buy and Walmart have cancelled any order I place.

That's my DP.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4361 on: December 01, 2021, 03:32:06 PM »
Go down to talk to owner/manager face to face.
That’s not a bad idea.
Ordered from?
Lowe’s
Send them a link to this post
Then what?
If they won’t work with you, post their name here?
I would need to ask a Rav first.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4362 on: December 01, 2021, 04:06:09 PM »
I've had on and off success with Dell to DE.
That's my DP.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4363 on: December 01, 2021, 04:10:22 PM »
I would need to ask a Rav first.
You have my OK.  :)
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4364 on: December 01, 2021, 04:13:36 PM »
Then what?

I'll freely admit to not having the requisite knowledge in this business or any of the fields I'm about to mention, but I'd assume they would rather pay you for those items - which in all likelihood they are morally, halachically, and legally required to do anyway - then have their reputation ruined on a forum that has the eyes of hundreds or thousands of their buyers. And then you won't need to
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« Reply #4365 on: December 01, 2021, 04:41:00 PM »
I'll freely admit to not having the requisite knowledge in this business or any of the fields I'm about to mention, but I'd assume they would rather pay you for those items - which in all likelihood they are morally, halachically, and legally required to do anyway - then have their reputation ruined on a forum that has the eyes of hundreds or thousands of their buyers. And then you won't need to
Fair
You have my OK.  :)
Since when are you the CRONY? ;)
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4366 on: December 01, 2021, 04:46:18 PM »
I had a story with Amazon when I ordered a few iPads some were scanned and some were not. All showed delivered but the BG claimed it never was.
I ended up getting a refund from Amazon after multiple HUCAs.
That was the end of buying groups for me.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4367 on: December 01, 2021, 06:00:26 PM »
You have my OK.  :)
after u cause him to sin, u can come confess to me to get atoned.
confession by pm is perfectly acceptable.
u have my ok for that

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« Reply #4368 on: December 01, 2021, 06:07:52 PM »
after u cause him to sin,
Lets back up here. I had nothing to do with the stripper.  :P
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4369 on: December 02, 2021, 03:56:12 PM »
Closeout did  a while ago.
Do you have contact info for them?

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« Reply #4370 on: December 02, 2021, 04:18:30 PM »
I'll freely admit to not having the requisite knowledge in this business or any of the fields I'm about to mention, but I'd assume they would rather pay you for those items - which in all likelihood they are morally, halachically, and legally required to do anyway - then have their reputation ruined on a forum that has the eyes of hundreds or thousands of their buyers. And then you won't need to

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Do you have contact info for them?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4372 on: December 23, 2021, 03:44:20 PM »
PSA: USA needs to get their act together. I only ship to DE. They are really bad with delays in scanning & communication and lost packages.
I would love to support them but other options are simply better.

 
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« Reply #4373 on: December 23, 2021, 04:21:55 PM »
PSA: USA needs to get their act together. I only ship to DE. They are really bad with delays in scanning & communication and lost packages.
I would love to support them but other options are simply better.
Do you enter tracking info?
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« Reply #4374 on: December 23, 2021, 04:23:37 PM »
Go down to talk to owner/manager face to face.
UPDATE: I went down to a dropoff location and spoke to the manager at the warehouse. He says “he will take care of it”- I’m waiting with bated breath.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4375 on: December 23, 2021, 04:41:05 PM »
PSA: USA needs to get their act together. I only ship to DE. They are really bad with delays in scanning & communication and lost packages.
I would love to support them but other options are simply better.

Seems like their efforts have been focused more on bolstering their Instagram presence.

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« Reply #4376 on: December 23, 2021, 04:56:19 PM »
PSA: USA needs to get their act together. I only ship to DE. They are really bad with delays in scanning & communication and lost packages.
I would love to support them but other options are simply better.
such as?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4377 on: December 23, 2021, 04:59:24 PM »
PSA: USA needs to get their act together. I only ship to DE. They are really bad with delays in scanning & communication and lost packages.
I would love to support them but other options are simply better.
Why would you love to support them if they have such issues and there are better options?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4378 on: December 23, 2021, 05:18:43 PM »
Why would you love to support them if they have such issues and there are better options?
What he’s trying to say is that he’s using DDF as a way to post negative reviews as leverage and in the hope this will get this BG to rectify.
Im good with that btw.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4379 on: December 23, 2021, 05:20:30 PM »
Why would you love to support them if they have such issues and there are better options?
They have the most deals but there online platform is terrible to keep track and they take too long for checking in and giving checks I only use them for local drop off if the deal works for me