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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4840 on: August 09, 2022, 06:51:49 PM »
Poor guy can't ask a d*mn question without everyone going, "Yep, mmhmm. Username..."
Same thing that everyone thinks every time you don't post.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4841 on: August 09, 2022, 07:20:36 PM »
Poor guy can't ask a d*mn question without everyone going, "Yep, mmhmm. Username..."

Exactly what I was thinking
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4842 on: August 09, 2022, 07:29:59 PM »
Poor guy can't ask a d*mn question without everyone going, "Yep, mmhmm. Username..."
It's his shtick though

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4843 on: August 09, 2022, 07:56:15 PM »
Same thing that everyone thinks every time you don't post.

At least I don't get called out for it.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4844 on: August 10, 2022, 05:02:48 AM »
Anyone have an idea how to go around this issue?

Shipped items to buying groups, they claim never arrived, Amazon refuses to refund the order, because the address is listed as a freight forwarder.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4845 on: August 10, 2022, 06:43:37 AM »
Anyone have an idea how to go around this issue?

Shipped items to buying groups, they claim never arrived, Amazon refuses to refund the order, because the address is listed as a freight forwarder.

Let's start with this. Which group? Or groups?

I have had issues and certain groups have helped with such issues. Including reaching out to a contact at Amazon.


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4846 on: August 10, 2022, 07:21:13 AM »
EMB

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4847 on: August 10, 2022, 07:21:25 AM »
& MYS

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4848 on: August 10, 2022, 11:20:26 AM »
Anyone have an idea how to go around this issue?

Shipped items to buying groups, they claim never arrived, Amazon refuses to refund the order, because the address is listed as a freight forwarder.
EMB
& MYS
HUCA. Or don't do BGs.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4849 on: August 10, 2022, 02:22:25 PM »
Huca'd many times, constantly get the same response. finally got someone who said he processed the refund, but it didn't go through, I called again they said because of freight forwarder the refund did NOT go through

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4850 on: August 13, 2022, 06:57:55 PM »
What is HUCA?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4853 on: August 14, 2022, 08:23:12 AM »
They are huge TDB.
 Have over 15k members.
Is this true?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4854 on: August 14, 2022, 03:53:25 PM »
Is this true?
well their referral bonus is $10 after $5k spend so can't imagine they're growing to fast these days!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4856 on: August 15, 2022, 04:17:44 PM »
well their referral bonus is $10 after $5k spend so can't imagine they're growing to fast these days!
Id pay 0 lol group has plenty of signups daily and the group is big enough whatever the number is I have no issue getting whats needed when I post.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4857 on: August 15, 2022, 09:24:19 PM »
Which group offers the most deals @ cost?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4858 on: August 21, 2022, 10:08:32 PM »
Which group offers the most deals @ cost?

I wish WhatsApp was able to.have secret groups like telegram where ones number is not visible. Too much spam has been happening with people stealing numbers from public groups.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4859 on: August 21, 2022, 10:14:12 PM »
The chat has reps from pretty much every buying group on it and even the ones who arent there straight out have people who let them know whats happening. TDB, cnj, BFP, BFMR, MYS are all on there.