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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4880 on: November 25, 2022, 06:27:14 AM »
Who doesn't have below price deals?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4881 on: November 25, 2022, 08:35:19 AM »
Who doesn't have below price deals?
is that seriously a think these days?
#TYH

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4882 on: November 25, 2022, 09:03:51 AM »
is that seriously a think these days?

As of now i noticed buyersforpoints has some deals for full pricing but you need to commit within minutes.
PM mostly has below cost deals.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4883 on: December 01, 2022, 11:16:56 PM »
Are there any buying groups that are Canada based?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4884 on: December 01, 2022, 11:39:04 PM »
Are there any buying groups that are Canada based?
There used to be in Toronto someone who ran one. Not sure if he still does

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4885 on: December 05, 2022, 11:30:15 AM »
Are there any buying groups that are Canada based?
https://torontobuyinggroup.ca/
https://buyinggroup.ca/

This is not a vouch for either as I've never used them.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4886 on: December 05, 2022, 11:31:49 AM »
It been a while since there were buying groups needing iphones purchased.
I assume its due to low supply of iPhones.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4887 on: December 05, 2022, 11:35:59 AM »
https://torontobuyinggroup.ca/
https://buyinggroup.ca/

This is not a vouch for either as I've never used them.

If someone needs info, feel free to PM. I have some (albeit limited) experience with these.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4888 on: December 18, 2022, 12:53:14 PM »
Just sent laptops to TDB that I packaged myself, and they're claiming 1 less than I sent.

This happen to anyone else?

Any recourse?

I suggested checking their video feeds for proof, but only received a "we have no extras in system" response.

I also explained how the weight upon FedEx acceptance matches my number not theirs and received a similar response.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4889 on: December 18, 2022, 12:59:16 PM »
It been a while since there were buying groups needing iphones purchased.
I assume its due to low supply of iPhones.

Probably, but maybe also low demand in volume at a margin that’s worth their efforts?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4890 on: December 18, 2022, 01:24:56 PM »
Just sent laptops to TDB that I packaged myself, and they're claiming 1 less than I sent.

This happen to anyone else?

Any recourse?

I suggested checking their video feeds for proof, but only received a "we have no extras in system" response.

I also explained how the weight upon FedEx acceptance matches my number not theirs and received a similar response.
read the title of this thread.  if a laptop is $1500 imagine how many times you need to bother with buying groups to recoup it.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4891 on: December 21, 2022, 12:04:12 PM »
I will literally never use USA again, and I've done almost 3/4 of a milion there.  I've never seen such a long check-in time, disorganized, trash buy group in my life.  Just a PSA to anyone considering shipping them anything, I wouldn't anymore.  Too many other streamlined well run groups to use.  Crummy service should go under in my opinion.

Same! Absolute disaster. I'm done with USA. Spent over $700k for them. Looking for another group. Any info on BuyForMeRetail? Is it a frum company? efficient? Where are they located?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4892 on: December 21, 2022, 12:07:53 PM »
Same! Absolute disaster. I'm done with USA. Spent over $700k for them. Looking for another group. Any info on BuyForMeRetail? Is it a frum company? efficient? Where are they located?
Buyformeretail is extremely efficient. Same or next day scan in (maybe holiday time a drop longer). The pay you direct deposit automatically the day of or next day. Haven't used that much but the times I did was very smooth.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4893 on: December 21, 2022, 03:28:44 PM »
Buyformeretail is extremely efficient. Same or next day scan in (maybe holiday time a drop longer). The pay you direct deposit automatically the day of or next day. Haven't used that much but the times I did was very smooth.

Where are they located? Is there any information about who runs it?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4894 on: December 21, 2022, 08:06:41 PM »
Just sent laptops to TDB that I packaged myself, and they're claiming 1 less than I sent.

This happen to anyone else?

Any recourse?

I suggested checking their video feeds for proof, but only received a "we have no extras in system" response.

I also explained how the weight upon FedEx acceptance matches my number not theirs and received a similar response.

It's stories like this that made me bail from buying groups.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4895 on: December 21, 2022, 09:57:41 PM »
Where are they located? Is there any information about who runs it?
Located in NH. Not Jewish owners or workers. They dont have names at all. They only go by letters (BFMR-T, BFMR-E, N, C). They are very efficient though with same day payout via ACH.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4896 on: January 14, 2023, 08:23:37 PM »
Anyone have a good experience with Walmart sending to bfmr lately?
What about Dell?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4897 on: January 15, 2023, 12:40:29 PM »
Anyone have a good experience with Walmart sending to bfmr lately?
What about Dell?

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« Reply #4898 on: January 23, 2023, 03:34:57 PM »
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4899 on: February 08, 2023, 03:18:36 PM »
Are there any reliable buying groups that someone can recommend?
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