PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others

[JMHO]

Are there any reliable buying groups that someone can recommend?

They all start off reliable

[Shaya E]

Are there any reliable buying groups that someone can recommend?

I recently started using TDB and have been very happy with them. Not as many deals as some others but otherwise they've been great.

[DealJew]

Are there any gains from doing buying groups besides for getting credit card points?

[Shaya E]

Are there any gains from doing buying groups besides for getting credit card points?

Well, not really (other than the occasional small commissions). But points come as SUBs, liquidating VGC/MCGC, and as regular spend points. I personally only use the if I need help reaching a SUB.

[AussieMan]

auto cancel at both places

How about costco

[aygart]

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/22/supreme-court-rules-bankruptcy-no-shield-to-fraud-debt.html

KEY POINTS

The Supreme Court unanimously ruled that a woman could not use protection under the U.S. bankruptcy code to avoid paying a debt that resulted from fraud by her partner.

The court said that the California woman, Kate Bartenwerfer, owed the debt even if she did not know or could not have known about her partner's fraud.

The 9-0 ruling, written by Justice Amy Coney Barrett, underscored a Supreme Court decision in 1885 which found that two partners in a New York wool company were liable for the debt due to the fraudulent claims of a third partner even though they were not themselves "guilty of wrong."

[Euclid]

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/22/supreme-court-rules-bankruptcy-no-shield-to-fraud-debt.html

KEY POINTS

The Supreme Court unanimously ruled that a woman could not use protection under the U.S. bankruptcy code to avoid paying a debt that resulted from fraud by her partner.

The court said that the California woman, Kate Bartenwerfer, owed the debt even if she did not know or could not have known about her partner's fraud.

The 9-0 ruling, written by Justice Amy Coney Barrett, underscored a Supreme Court decision in 1885 which found that two partners in a New York wool company were liable for the debt due to the fraudulent claims of a third partner even though they were not themselves "guilty of wrong."

Are you implying that if someone uses their credit card to pay for goods/services for another party that makes them partners?

[aygart]

Are you implying that if someone uses their credit card to pay for goods/services for another party that makes them partners?

Maybe not partnership but rather agency



Justice Sonia Sotomayor, in a concurring opinion joined by Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, noted that the ruling involves people who acted together in a partnership, not “a situation involving fraud by a person bearing no agency or partnership relationship to the debtor.”

[Euclid]

Maybe not partnership but rather agency



Justice Sonia Sotomayor, in a concurring opinion joined by Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, noted that the ruling involves people who acted together in a partnership, not “a situation involving fraud by a person bearing no agency or partnership relationship to the debtor.”

Oh come on, that wasn't her point. She was saying that in this case they're akin to partners because he was doing something for her (agency) and because they were partners for other parts of life. I'd be shocked if that would apply to someone lending someone else their credit card.

[aygart]

Oh come on, that wasn't her point. She was saying that in this case they're akin to partners because he was doing something for her (agency) and because they were partners for other parts of life. I'd be shocked if that would apply to someone lending someone else their credit card.

I understand, but I think it would be even more applicable to lending someone a credit card because that person cannot claim to have been uninvolved in the fraud.

[CountValentine]

Oh come on, that wasn't her point. She was saying that in this case they're akin to partners because he was doing something for her (agency) and because they were partners for other parts of life. I'd be shocked if that would apply to someone lending someone else their credit card.

So if you lend your CC out make sure you don't know them? 

[Euclid]

I understand, but I think it would be even more applicable to lending someone a credit card because that person cannot claim to have been uninvolved in the fraud.

right, it would definitely be circumstantial evidence to a partnership. but i dont see how that would be considered a partnership legally - theyre not using the credit card to buy something for the cardholders benefit/agency

[aygart]

right, it would definitely be circumstantial evidence to a partnership. but i dont see how that would be considered a partnership legally - theyre not using the credit card to buy something for the cardholders benefit/agency

It can be worse than a partnership in some ways. Try it and report back

[Euclid]

It can be worse than a partnership in some ways. Try it and report back

in what ways?

(I would never lend someone my credit card, for other reasons. Though I do BGs, that's just dropshipping/reselling - certainly not a partnership; I consider myself a vendor.)

[aygart]

in what ways?

(I would never lend someone my credit card, for other reasons. Though I do BGs, that's just dropshipping/reselling - certainly not a partnership; I consider myself a vendor.)

Because you went and allowed them to use your credit line fraudulantly.

[ckmk47]

Because you went and allowed them to use your credit line fraudulantly.

If someone does the buying and resells to the fraudster, he's not involved in the fraud. He's a reseller who sold to a crook.
If the fraudster has a third party's credit card and spends for his own benefit, is the card holder a party to the fraud?  That's the question.

[aygart]

Yes

[aygart]

Yes

[JunkYardUnz]

I have two Amazon accounts each with prime. One I use for buying groups and the other for personal items. Recently I made a mistake and loaded gift cards on to the personal account. I was able to reverse most of them except for the one that was partially used. I’m trying to use up the remaining value, but the last 4 times I order something from Amazon that I’m shipping to the buying groups I get the “qla email” exceed limits and canceling my order. I know Amazon looks at both accounts when they determine if you exceed the limit as such I have never tried to circumvent the limit as these accounts are clearly linked. I’m not careful and use the same credit cards, address… on both accounts. Questions 1) if you get too many qla emails does Amazon cancel your account? 2) has Amazon started to apply limit on address as Walmart, Costco, eBay…?

[Yo ssi]

Don't use gift cards