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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4920 on: February 27, 2023, 09:24:15 AM »
Don't use gift cards for buying groups
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4921 on: February 27, 2023, 10:39:30 AM »
any feedback on closeoutnj ? they recently had a "deal" on $800 MacBooks, so I would like some reviews on them before shipping such a high value item.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4922 on: February 27, 2023, 10:58:10 AM »
any feedback on closeoutnj ? they recently had a "deal" on $800 MacBooks, so I would like some reviews on them before shipping such a high value item.
theyre fine. havent heard or had any real horror stories, just the usual kvetching like about most of the other BGs

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4923 on: February 27, 2023, 11:07:16 AM »
+1 fast track to account closure
OMG Amazon GC or prepaid Visa/MC?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4924 on: February 27, 2023, 11:10:45 AM »
OMG Amazon GC or prepaid Visa/MC?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4925 on: February 27, 2023, 11:15:16 AM »
Where are they located? Is there any information about who runs it?
Nope. It’s anonymous.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4926 on: February 27, 2023, 11:15:57 AM »
Are there any gains from doing buying groups besides for getting credit card points?
If you have a lot of time to waste. 

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4927 on: February 27, 2023, 03:16:51 PM »
If you have a lot of time to waste.
Shayches?! For u maybe it’s not worth it for others it may be everyone is entitled to do what works for them…. If you are a whale can make a lot…

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4928 on: February 27, 2023, 04:05:59 PM »
Shayches?! For u maybe it’s not worth it for others it may be everyone is entitled to do what works for them…. If you are a whale can make a lot…
He was answering the question, whether you like his answer or not.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4929 on: February 28, 2023, 06:38:21 AM »
Shayches?! For u maybe it’s not worth it for others it may be everyone is entitled to do what works for them…. If you are a whale can make a lot…
Did you get this defensive because you are affiliated with a bg?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4930 on: February 28, 2023, 11:46:22 AM »
Don't use gift cards
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is this an issue only when account is used for personal & BG, or even if solely BG?

why would amazon care if their own gift cards are used for BG purchases?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4931 on: March 01, 2023, 05:42:13 PM »
why would amazon care if their own gift cards are used for BG purchases?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4932 on: March 12, 2023, 08:06:58 PM »
What BG use signature Bank...

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4933 on: March 12, 2023, 08:14:16 PM »
If it benefits even just one fellow DDFer, its worth posting it.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4934 on: March 12, 2023, 11:02:22 PM »
What BG use signature Bank...

Don’t know but will tell you one that doesn’t.

In light of all the financial news swirling around we just want to assure everyone that none of the banks that we use are affected by the recent developments.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4935 on: March 12, 2023, 11:52:41 PM »
*Pointsmaker Update*
We are aware of the recent issues with Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank.  Rest assured that we are NOT affiliated with either one.  All checks and ACH transactions with Pointsmaker are processed through Bank of America.  If you have any further questions or concerns please do not hesitate to reach out.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4936 on: March 13, 2023, 12:12:53 AM »
After the fed’s announcement, if your BG is using banking liquidity issues to excuse not paying you, you can be pretty sure they’re lying.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4937 on: March 13, 2023, 07:49:22 PM »
TDB

from their website "Bank Update: Signature Bank verified that the bank will operate under FDIC management, All payments will be as usual till further notice."

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4938 on: March 17, 2023, 10:26:29 AM »
Anyone here involved in the hardbody MS situation?

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