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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5540 on: April 17, 2024, 10:52:52 AM »
With these buying clubs is it a question of when and not if (they go under)?

BG's go under when the big end buyer funding the operation runs into financial distress for any particular reason.

That isn't a necessarily a rare occurrence, but why should that be a "when" scenario?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5541 on: April 17, 2024, 10:57:25 AM »
With these buying clubs is it a question of when and not if (they go under)?
Like most good things in life...

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5542 on: April 17, 2024, 12:15:43 PM »
BG's go under when the big end buyer funding the operation runs into financial distress for any particular reason.

That isn't a necessarily a rare occurrence, but why should that be a "when" scenario?
You want to make more money. You spread yourself to thin and it is just a matter of time.
There might be legals reasons/disputes. There are a ton a reasons. 
Not going to go into the nefarious reason as I will be accused of something I never said.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5543 on: April 17, 2024, 12:41:04 PM »
MYS hasn't paid me in over 4 months now. BS reason that "banks delays", so now they switched banks and everything will be just amazing if I wait another month.
And of course comments on FT blaming on the “Rabbis” that run the buying group and claiming that members of the community are getting paid…

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5544 on: April 17, 2024, 12:43:08 PM »
And of course comments on FT blaming on the “Rabbis” that run the buying group and claiming that members of the community are getting paid…
Do Rabbis run it?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5545 on: April 17, 2024, 01:06:40 PM »
Do Rabbis run it?
It depends what you call a Rabbi.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5546 on: April 17, 2024, 01:10:23 PM »
What's FT?
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« Reply #5547 on: April 17, 2024, 01:11:02 PM »
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half
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« Reply #5548 on: April 17, 2024, 01:13:33 PM »
It depends what you call a Rabbi.
LOL
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5549 on: April 17, 2024, 01:36:49 PM »
Do Rabbis run it?
In case you aren’t familiar the old joke in Lakewood goes that the announcement in the local grocery store goes “Rabbi Goldberg, cleanup in an aisle 6”.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5550 on: April 17, 2024, 01:39:48 PM »
In case you aren’t familiar the old joke in Lakewood goes that the announcement in the local grocery store goes “Rabbi Goldberg, cleanup in an aisle 6”.
I know it kills the joke if you have to explain it.
Everyone is a Rabbi?
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PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5551 on: April 17, 2024, 01:48:40 PM »
I know it kills the joke if you have to explain it.
Everyone is a Rabbi?
In the context of the FT complaint, yes, every Orthodox Jew is a Rabbi. (This isn't factually correct obviously)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5552 on: April 17, 2024, 01:50:03 PM »
It depends what you call a Rabbi.
Bearded, white-shirted obvious Jew = Rabbi. It doesn't matter what he does for a living.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5553 on: April 17, 2024, 02:02:22 PM »
Bearded, white-shirted obvious Jew = Rabbi. It doesn't matter what he does for a living.
Hence the joke
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« Reply #5554 on: April 17, 2024, 06:03:03 PM »
pretty sure MYS is owned by sgmsocher  ;).......

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5555 on: April 17, 2024, 08:48:38 PM »
MYS hasn't paid me in over 4 months now. BS reason that "banks delays", so now they switched banks and everything will be just amazing if I wait another month.

I'm a very good friend of the owner of Mys Buying group and I created a new account on the chance Ddf doesn't like this post I'm sorry for the long post as well just wanted to be clear. I would just like to jump in and just say few points I'm not here to promote there group just settle some points that have come up about the group and others as I think any negative comments about MYS is of a buyer that hasn't bought for it recently.

They provide checks at all of there drop off locations and they as well provide pickups from every persons house with a check on the spot no check is post dated. They as well have a great customer service and if any issues occur they are resolved quick.

They b"h have a very big group and growing daily they have created a amazing portal to help the buyers as well as speed up the Delaware process. For example someone had his package delivered to them today and was able to request a check within minutes I don't think any other group out there has that I could be wrong. You can check it out at www.mysbuyinggroup.com

Ill respond to one last comment about how other groups make you price adjust if a item drops which is true and I'm happy to say that MYS has never made anyone do that they honor prices they post. They are all for buyers making money there are many instances were a deal goes bad and they lose which they are fine with as long as it keep their buyers satisfied and that is the main thing.

With that have a great day every one and hope I was able to shed some light on current topic and if there was ever a buyer who feels like they were wronged by them reach out tell them about it as all companies would like to know were they are not great in not just Mys any group.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyingGroups/comments/192ufkx/severely_delayed_payouts_on_mys_buying_group/?onetap_auto=true&one_tap=true


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5557 on: April 20, 2024, 10:07:54 PM »
Anyone run a buying group on here? Looking for a buying group to do purchasing for us.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5558 on: April 21, 2024, 01:11:51 PM »
I’m shocked that local publications let this in.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
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