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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5720 on: December 04, 2024, 05:58:32 PM »
Says who?
Can you elaborate on what you were referring to originally when you brought up insurance? What are we talking about. Things buying groups have said on whatsapp or on their site? Or something else/more ?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5721 on: December 04, 2024, 07:17:12 PM »
Things buying groups have said on whatsapp or on their site?

Yes. On WA, in Discord, on their sites.

Groups who advertise having insurance:

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5722 on: December 30, 2024, 11:18:57 PM »
I am still 2.5-3 months behind in payment for buyersforpoints. I have received several payments for items delivered 4 months ago however I am advising all to stay away as they are not reliable for payments.


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5723 on: January 14, 2025, 05:29:42 PM »
Are any groups paying at least cost for items? All I see is below cost.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5724 on: January 14, 2025, 05:32:32 PM »
Are any groups paying at least cost for items? All I see is below cost.
BFP... But see my post from above about getting paid...
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5725 on: January 14, 2025, 05:39:49 PM »
BFP... But see my post from above about getting paid...
Thanks.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5726 on: Today at 12:52:53 AM »
One buying group shared the following.

We have recently been informed about a significant seizure of Apple products involving a specific group, which we will not name. This group has been mixing stolen merchandise with legitimately obtained products. Alarmingly, they are now requesting purchase invoices from users, intending to alter them by inserting stolen serial numbers.

We strongly urge everyone to exercise extreme caution and refrain from sharing your personal purchase invoices to protect yourself and your business.

Your security and trust are our top priorities. Stay vigilant.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5727 on: Today at 01:39:13 AM »
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5728 on: Today at 01:41:58 AM »
One buying group shared the following.

We have recently been informed about a significant seizure of Apple products involving a specific group, which we will not name. This group has been mixing stolen merchandise with legitimately obtained products. Alarmingly, they are now requesting purchase invoices from users, intending to alter them by inserting stolen serial numbers.

We strongly urge everyone to exercise extreme caution and refrain from sharing your personal purchase invoices to protect yourself and your business.

Your security and trust are our top priorities. Stay vigilant.
There's a lot of finger pointing and accusations going on between rival groups. Not sure this is the full story - it's coming from a rival group

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5729 on: Today at 06:02:07 AM »
There's a lot of finger pointing and accusations going on between rival groups. Not sure this is the full story - it's coming from a rival group
Could very well be.
I'm just sharing this as a possible warning.

I don't have any other information.
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