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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

https://www.mixcloud.com/zev-brenner/talkline-with-zev-brenner-on-credit-card-scams-affecting-the-orthodox-jewish-community/

http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5760 on: March 08, 2025, 09:16:34 PM »
Sounds trustworthy
Gonna assume that was sarcastic...
If not, it should be.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5761 on: March 08, 2025, 09:42:52 PM »
Gonna assume that was sarcastic...
If not, it should be.
Welcome to DDF :)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5762 on: March 08, 2025, 10:10:09 PM »
Welcome to DDF :)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5763 on: March 08, 2025, 10:13:51 PM »
Liar paradox.
Every rule has an exception




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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5764 on: March 09, 2025, 02:39:07 PM »
If you're just looking to gamble with your money, why not head to Vegas instead?

This thread has been around for 10 years, and no one ever learns..

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5765 on: March 09, 2025, 03:12:47 PM »
If you're just looking to gamble with your money, why not head to Vegas instead?

This thread has been around for 10 years, and no one ever learns..

But... but... people have made millions doing this!
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5766 on: March 09, 2025, 03:40:25 PM »
But... but... people have made millions doing this!
Gosh where were you guys when I needed you...
Welcome to DDF :)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5767 on: March 09, 2025, 03:44:23 PM »
Gosh where were you guys when I needed you...

When did you need us?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5768 on: March 09, 2025, 03:45:42 PM »
When did you need us?
Hmmmm can't remember the last time...

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5769 on: March 09, 2025, 04:06:17 PM »
Hmmmm can't remember the last time...

Welcome to DDF :)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5771 on: March 10, 2025, 05:13:52 PM »
I have personal experience, do you?
How much are you owed/for how long? And what has been your experience chasing it down? Only if you don't mind sharing.
I have purchases for MYS but not in a few years. Currently I use BG, MOD, BFMR

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5775 on: April 06, 2025, 02:44:53 AM »
What am I missing? Why is this story in this thread?
We are reaching out to inform you of a break-in that occurred at our warehouse this past weekend. We have alerted the authorities, and are currently working closely with them as we review and resolve the situation. As part of this process, we will need to track all recently delivered items, including details of the items in the tracking.

Please know that we have insurance coverage in place to ensure that all parties involved are fully protected, and we are taking all necessary steps to mitigate any potential impacts. Our team is working diligently to address the situation and ensure that all operations continue as smoothly as possible.

We kindly ask for your cooperation in providing tracking information for any items delivered recently, so we can expedite the process and ensure everything is handled appropriately.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5778 on: April 06, 2025, 08:47:22 AM »
https://newjersey.news12.com/police-thieves-steal-millions-of-dollars-in-merchandise-in-lakewood-warehouse-heist

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They were caught once and let out? Why do we allow this to happen? I don't understand how bail reform laws didn't lead to an uprising.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5779 on: April 06, 2025, 09:19:22 AM »
They were caught once and let out? Why do we allow this to happen? I don't understand how bail reform laws didn't lead to an uprising.
Maybe they were convicted and only served a short sentence. Nothing in there to indicate that they're out on bail currently.