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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5780 on: April 06, 2025, 09:47:01 AM »
Maybe they were convicted and only served a short sentence. Nothing in there to indicate that they're out on bail currently.
Same issue to me.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5781 on: April 06, 2025, 10:08:24 AM »
Is there something the video report there that isn't in the article?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5782 on: April 06, 2025, 02:14:05 PM »
Amazes me how these businesses don’t have 24 hour camera monitoring.
They did. Perps disabled the system and smashed them
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5783 on: April 06, 2025, 02:16:09 PM »
He needed CV's fax service.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5784 on: April 06, 2025, 02:17:53 PM »
They did. Perps disabled the system and smashed them

And the monitor service didn't notice?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5785 on: April 06, 2025, 06:49:26 PM »
They did. Perps disabled the system and smashed them
Nonsense. If they had a 24 hour monitoring and the system got disabled/or they saw somebody smashing the camera, don’t you think they would’ve called the police?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5786 on: April 06, 2025, 06:54:41 PM »
It was Shabbos SMH

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5787 on: April 06, 2025, 10:42:41 PM »
Monitex business is booming

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5788 on: April 07, 2025, 03:30:19 AM »
It was Shabbos SMH
24 Hour monitoring doesn't watch on Shabbos?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5789 on: April 07, 2025, 07:02:09 AM »
24 Hour monitoring doesn't watch on Shabbos?
Of course it does. Your question however was
the system got disabled/or they saw somebody smashing the camera, don’t you think they would've called the police?
To which @eli5757 replied
It was Shabbos SMH
Meaning they are not watching the cameras on Shabbos and wouldn't necessarily see someone smashing or disabling it.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5790 on: April 07, 2025, 09:32:54 AM »
I think there is a misunderstanding here between having cameras monitoring 24 hours and having a third party company monitoring your cameras 24 hours

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5791 on: April 07, 2025, 09:54:10 AM »
I think there is a misunderstanding here between having cameras monitoring 24 hours and having a third party company monitoring your cameras 24 hours
This term describes the real-time surveillance of your property by off-site security professionals using cameras.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5792 on: April 16, 2025, 06:11:04 PM »
If I was supposed to receive a payment 2 days ago, and didn’t,  and the groups website has been down for a few days, is it possible they shut all operations for yom tov, or is something up?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5793 on: April 16, 2025, 06:21:32 PM »
If I was supposed to receive a payment 2 days ago, and didn’t,  and the groups website has been down for a few days, is it possible they shut all operations for yom tov, or is something up?
Is there an issue naming the group?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5794 on: April 16, 2025, 06:23:38 PM »
Is there an issue naming the group?
If they’re simply closed for yt, I don’t want to publicly accuse them of being behind. I’m curious if that’s a possibility.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5795 on: April 16, 2025, 09:34:14 PM »
If I was supposed to receive a payment 2 days ago, and didn’t,  and the groups website has been down for a few days, is it possible they shut all operations for yom tov, or is something up?
Something is up.

Companies can close their receiving or AP department for a few days without shutting their website...

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« Reply #5796 on: April 21, 2025, 01:24:25 PM »
any update?

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« Reply #5797 on: April 21, 2025, 02:01:48 PM »
any update?
Just heard from owner, says glitch with website, should be resolved today, and payment should go out today. Will update once that does or doesn’t happen.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5798 on: April 21, 2025, 02:11:34 PM »
Site is up, just SSL certificate expired, you can bypass browser warning
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« Reply #5799 on: April 21, 2025, 02:17:48 PM »
Site is up, just SSL certificate expired, you can bypass browser warning
Can’t bypass on chrome. But when I do on safari, login doesn’t work.