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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

https://www.mixcloud.com/zev-brenner/talkline-with-zev-brenner-on-credit-card-scams-affecting-the-orthodox-jewish-community/

http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5800 on: April 21, 2025, 02:40:44 PM »
Can’t bypass on chrome. But when I do on safari, login doesn’t work.
Same by me.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5801 on: April 21, 2025, 02:42:23 PM »
Hi everyone,
Our website is currently experiencing minor technical difficulties. We expect the site to be back up and running by tomorrow.

As a result, payments scheduled for today will be delayed until tomorrow. We appreciate your patience and apologize for the inconvenience.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5802 on: April 21, 2025, 02:43:44 PM »
Hi everyone,
Our website is currently experiencing minor technical difficulties. We expect the site to be back up and running by tomorrow.

As a result, payments scheduled for today will be delayed until tomorrow. We appreciate your patience and apologize for the inconvenience.
Was that today?
And I assume WhatsApp?

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Was that today?
And I assume WhatsApp?
Yes just now

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
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Site back up bh.

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Site back up bh.
And got paid bh.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5806 on: May 02, 2025, 02:47:23 PM »
How are these deals??
People actually buy with such a big markdown? Somehow usabuying group started emailing me again


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« Reply #5807 on: May 04, 2025, 03:11:10 PM »
How are these deals??
People actually buy with such a big markdown? Somehow usabuying group started emailing me again


apparently, anything up to -5% is worth it for somebody on an amazon card...

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5808 on: June 06, 2025, 11:43:17 AM »
I'll occasionally buy small quantities from Amazon for BFMR and until now only had very positive experience.
Ordered approx. $200 worth on 5/19.
Items were delivered 5/22 and I have still not received payment.
Submitted a ticket on 6/1 and have yet to receive response.
(Subsequently those items were marked as 'closed' on my portal)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5810 on: June 11, 2025, 07:24:42 PM »
The end of this shiur (starting at 59:00)

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« Reply #5811 on: June 12, 2025, 01:40:38 PM »
The end of this shiur (starting at 59:00)



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Translation?

dont let anyone use your cc