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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #855 on: May 04, 2018, 06:18:12 PM »
most of your points earned.
Ebay has limits.
(also they take a cut ::))
Only an idiot would take that deal.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #856 on: May 04, 2018, 06:20:14 PM »
Only an idiot would take that deal.
I personally don't do it.
But they usually take around 1% many MS methods have such a cost.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #857 on: May 04, 2018, 06:45:58 PM »
Usually not. And often they ship even if they "cancel"
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #858 on: May 06, 2018, 12:12:30 AM »
I will take a Rolex ;) - I dont just need the contacts but someone to introduce me as well ;)


Someone made a reference about people who broker points and flights (a pretty transparent business model) and then they go on to ship these things abroad. - that is an explanation?

I think before we jump to me asking to be spoonfed maybe "what does abroad mean".

So when someone sells a mac or iPad it gets loaded onto a container ship to be sold to a Chinese mogul?

Would giving a little clarity be asking for the secret sauce?

example - Poeple who buy points book J fares for people at a discount from revenue price and keep the diff....simple clean and understandable.How are connections made, many times through traditional ads and web marketing - I can know all this even though I am not involved in the business...

Buying Groups - all seem to decide on the same type of deals?, and then have Chinese moguls abroad buying truckloads to put in local stores there???? What is the model? Where are they finding people.

Why you making this so complicated?
These companies are wholesalers. Online is often better price then buying direct, or gives access to products in large quantities not available elsewhere. If itís a popular product thatís not available in parts of the world, then someone has to supply it, sometimes at nice markup. And they can sell to distributors, retailers, Amazon, government agencies,  etc.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #859 on: May 06, 2018, 01:28:43 AM »
Why you making this so complicated?
These companies are wholesalers. Online is often better price then buying direct, or gives access to products in large quantities not available elsewhere. If itís a popular product thatís not available in parts of the world, then someone has to supply it, sometimes at nice markup. And they can sell to distributors, retailers, Amazon, government agencies,  etc.
It's not complicated. He asked and was answered multiple times. At this point it's just post padding.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #860 on: May 06, 2018, 02:13:09 AM »
It's not complicated. He asked and was answered multiple times. At this point, it's just post padding.
Not true no one gave a clear explanation or anything close to it....people here obviously don't know and that's ok.

Are you implying I am trying to get my post count up?

Its ok its obvious my original question brought up more interesting convos to you folks such as how not to get banned from BB or eBay and buying gold on eBay - so continue away on that convo....
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #861 on: May 06, 2018, 02:15:00 AM »
Why you making this so complicated?
These companies are wholesalers. Online is often better price then buying direct, or gives access to products in large quantities not available elsewhere. If itís a popular product thatís not available in parts of the world, then someone has to supply it, sometimes at nice markup. And they can sell to distributors, retailers, Amazon, government agencies,  etc.

So online is cheaper than buying from Apple directly?

Further, online gives more access? What are you saying?

Are you speaking about broad economic principles?  If something is popular and a country wants it, someone has to supply it.......? What does that mean (in context of this convo- I am a MBA major, not the underlying principles)?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #862 on: May 06, 2018, 02:16:07 AM »
I'm pretty sure this is the most frustrating conversation I've ever witnessed on DDF. 
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #863 on: May 06, 2018, 02:17:27 AM »
I'm pretty sure this is the most frustrating conversation I've ever witnessed on DDF.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #864 on: May 06, 2018, 02:18:01 AM »
+1
I'm fairly certain that you're a large part of the problem.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #865 on: May 06, 2018, 02:25:47 AM »
I'm fairly certain that you're a large part of the problem.
Wow - so please say how? I as the OP (original poster) asked two simple questions looking to discuss the ethics and also the background of how the business is run.

1. Never really touched upon

2. People say, wholesalers, no one is really explaining on what actually is going on.

To build on 1 and 2 no legitime wholesaler or government buyer is legally purchasing a product without a clear understanding of its origin.

It seems people are making stuff up when they dont know.

I don't think people here really know so its fine - people should just stop telling OP's off that they want 'all the answers' in situations where they did their research and its obvious the person saying that has no clue what the answer is himself.

Listen, if you guys want to talk about other stuff so be it...but don't say I'm not 'chapping' or catching on and def. do not say that people here have given satisfactory answers.


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #866 on: May 06, 2018, 02:28:05 AM »
Wow - so please say how? I as the OP (original poster) asked two simple questions looking to discuss the ethics and also the background of how the business is run.

1. Never really touched upon

2. People say, wholesalers, no one is really explaining on what actually is going on.

To build on 1 and 2 no legitime wholesaler or government buyer is legally purchasing a product without a clear understanding of its origin.

It seems people are making stuff up when they dont know.

I don't think people here really know so its fine - people should just stop telling OP's off that they want 'all the answers' in situations where they did their research and its obvious the person saying that has no clue what the answer is himself.

Listen, if you guys want to talk about other stuff so be it...but don't say I'm not 'chapping' or catching on and def. do not say that people here have given satisfactory answers.

Sorry if I came off a little harsh with above - didnt mean it to be so

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #867 on: May 06, 2018, 02:39:00 AM »


Wow - so please say how? I as the OP (original poster) asked two simple questions looking to discuss the ethics and also the background of how the business is run.

1. Never really touched upon

2. People say, wholesalers, no one is really explaining on what actually is going on.

To build on 1 and 2 no legitime wholesaler or government buyer is legally purchasing a product without a clear understanding of its origin.

It seems people are making stuff up when they dont know.

I don't think people here really know so its fine - people should just stop telling OP's off that they want 'all the answers' in situations where they did their research and its obvious the person saying that has no clue what the answer is himself.

Listen, if you guys want to talk about other stuff so be it...but don't say I'm not 'chapping' or catching on and def. do not say that people here have given satisfactory answers.

Your first question was answered almost immediately.
Your second question initially seemed somewhat irrelevant. It then turned into the bizarre situation of your simultaneously being unsure you want to be involved in this business on even the lowest level, buying for groups, while also expecting that people would outline their entire business model for you so you can become their competition. I really have no idea why you expect that info to be shared. You keep perseverating on the same points but you've got what you're going to get. Any further info falls under the category of "those who know don't tell, those who tell don't know." And if I was running a buying group the last thing I would do is post any answers to your questions when you have clearly stated that your interest in getting that info is to enter the business yourself.
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Re: Buying Groups-Swiping
« Reply #868 on: May 06, 2018, 07:50:40 AM »
Is this kosher? Anyone familiar?
Both your original questions have been answered.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #869 on: May 06, 2018, 08:21:53 AM »
Ok guys, I'll do it. I'll answer the questions clearly so that this can end.

1) No. It's illegal. You will almost certainly go to jail for violating a store's terms and conditions. Some people think a month in jail is worth a week in the Maldives or at least one shower on a airplane. It's basic risk-reward / cost-benefit analysis.

2) I'm gonna get in huge trouble for this, but I've already been removed from one buying group for inactivity, so I'm not risking that much. The buying groups use the power of large groups to obtain products at a lower cost which they then sell to other buyers at a higher cost. It's a very secretive concept called, "but low, sell high."

Please note, in certain industries which are kosher in some states and decidedly unkosher in most, it is very much not advised to "sell high". But to each their own.
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