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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #680 on: February 12, 2018, 02:49:21 PM »
Did he fly or just use it to turn into credit?

He also booked a hotel in that city but I did not see him do it!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #681 on: February 13, 2018, 03:44:18 AM »
He used the miles for himself and purchased a ticket in his name for a flight flown on Shabbos! rav beis din, na


Again, I would ask a Rav if it's mutar to report him to the authorities. He is being מכלה ממון ישראל.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #682 on: February 13, 2018, 07:55:28 AM »
Again, I would ask a Rav if it's mutar to report him to the authorities. He is being מכלה ממון ישראל.
You likely have to get a hetter from b"d, asking a Rav won't do.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #683 on: February 13, 2018, 08:57:46 AM »
Most casual readers of DDF don’t know any better and will call up random brokers and go with the highest quoted price...

Is their a another thread for this - dangers of selling points?
Can we get some stories and some reasons why selling points can get a person messed over?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #684 on: February 13, 2018, 09:09:11 AM »
Is their a another thread for this - dangers of selling points?
Can we get some stories and some reasons why selling points can get a person messed over?
No. Most of it is the obvious.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #685 on: February 13, 2018, 09:49:24 AM »


Again, I would ask a Rav if it's mutar to report him to the authorities. He is being מכלה ממון ישראל.

Your getting into a mess...if they start taking a look into buying/selling miles it won't be worth it .

Is their a another thread for this - dangers of selling points?
Can we get some stories and some reasons why selling points can get a person messed over?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #686 on: February 13, 2018, 12:03:52 PM »
who we talking about? Mitzva lefarshem?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #687 on: February 13, 2018, 12:11:54 PM »
who we talking about? Mitzva lefarshem?
Fwd: BEWARE; if you're selling miles or points, stay away from a guy named Shlomo or Alex Kay. His company name changes but he's been using the same phone number (below). He just scammed us out of a ton of money. Here's his contact information: ShlomoSmiles@gmail.com, shlomosmiles@icloud.com, Sashakoro@gmail.com home/ office 718-380-2574,
Mobile +1-646-675-2627 This isn't a repost. Happened to us personally.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #688 on: February 13, 2018, 12:19:01 PM »
Is their a another thread for this - dangers of selling points?
There have been

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #689 on: February 13, 2018, 12:20:24 PM »
Again, I would ask a Rav if it's mutar to report him to the authorities. He is being מכלה ממון ישראל.
That could be a bad idea

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #691 on: February 13, 2018, 01:09:11 PM »
Can you find it?
Are they still around?
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Offer help with Minimum spend
« Reply #692 on: March 09, 2018, 01:36:37 AM »
I can offer some help with anyone that needs some minimum spend or even simple churning.
Buy an item from me for $400 paypal + ebay account required  and I'll pay you back the full amount via chase pay.

PM me if you are interested.

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Re: Offer help with Minimum spend
« Reply #693 on: March 09, 2018, 01:39:45 AM »
I can offer some help with anyone that needs some minimum spend or even simple churning.
Buy an item from me for $400 paypal + ebay account required  and I'll pay you back the full amount via chase pay.

PM me if you are interested.

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Re: Offer help with Minimum spend
« Reply #694 on: March 09, 2018, 08:17:01 AM »
Uh huh.



but it sounds so easy- why shouldnt it work?  ;D
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Re: Offer help with Minimum spend
« Reply #695 on: March 09, 2018, 08:24:38 AM »
@topciu  Why wouldn't you spend on your own cards?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #696 on: March 09, 2018, 08:29:26 AM »
I love how this was moved to this board :D

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #697 on: March 09, 2018, 08:37:20 AM »
I love how this was moved to this board :D
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #698 on: March 09, 2018, 08:40:01 AM »
I love how this was moved to this board :D
Lol I was about to post a link to this thread
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #699 on: March 09, 2018, 09:18:51 AM »
I love how this was moved to this board :D
Kind of funny that was moved to this board ........
Its very simple though.
I should have highlighted the part "Buy FROM me & NOT BUY FOR ME " not trying to run a Nigerian scheme here.
And also the Answer is NO I cant buy from myself on ebay my account will get banned.