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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1040 on: May 18, 2018, 11:04:47 AM »
A. Around holiday times USA had a program where they'll spend for you on your cc and only pay you right before your due date.

B. IME USA had the longest wait times from when items we're delivered till you got the check. (My experience was holiday season I stopped ordering for them after that)

C. Having to hold on to a check is no big deal since no groups didn't let you use before your due date. Waiting to get a check is much more annoying
That is different. You're not buying for them in that situation. You're going in knowing that they will pay you only once your credit card is due.

I only ship to myself and drop it off at their warehouse. As such, I cannot comment on the time to get paid on items shipped out of state.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1041 on: May 18, 2018, 01:46:38 PM »
i have been buying for buying groups for the last year and find MYS/ONYX to be the best. They give a check on the spot for the full amount. they do pickups as well as dropoffs all over the tri-state area.

if anyone would like more info you can feel free to pm me

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1042 on: May 18, 2018, 01:47:57 PM »
All these new users who suddenly need to defend certain buying groups. Wow, they are coming out of the woodwork!
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1043 on: May 18, 2018, 02:16:29 PM »
All these new users who suddenly need to defend certain buying groups. Wow, they are coming out of the woodwork!
Sure makes you wonder.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1044 on: May 18, 2018, 04:46:54 PM »
I bought for both USA and MYS.
Have not had any issues with either.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1045 on: May 18, 2018, 05:02:25 PM »
i have been buying for buying groups for the last year and find MYS/ONYX to be the best. They give a check on the spot for the full amount. they do pickups as well as dropoffs all over the tri-state area.

if anyone would like more info you can feel free to pm me
Are you employed by them, or just buy from them?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1046 on: May 22, 2018, 07:18:51 PM »
A little perspective from the other end of the buying groups. I’ve had MYS/ONYX and USA (among some of the other ones)buy Coins for me. From what I saw they’re typically very devoted to the people who buy for them. On some of the Coins with large swipes they’ve done it for me for a very small profit margin simply to give the buyers a good swipe. It seems to be a very competitive space with significant risks involved. Props to them for keeping at it.

Although if anyone wants to do large swipes.... I’ve got a coin group ;)

A little shameless promotion there.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1047 on: May 22, 2018, 07:21:04 PM »
Although if anyone wants to do large swipes.... I’ve got a coin group ;)

A little shameless promotion there.
and those swipes are for free or we lose out on them?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1048 on: May 22, 2018, 07:25:29 PM »
I wouldn’t trust a monsey group

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1049 on: May 22, 2018, 07:37:34 PM »
I wouldn’t trust a monsey group
why not?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1050 on: May 22, 2018, 07:39:22 PM »
why not?
Because that cant even spell money right.  :P
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1051 on: May 22, 2018, 07:41:36 PM »
Because that cant even spell money right.  :P
I’m missing something

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1052 on: May 22, 2018, 07:44:00 PM »
I’m missing something
Bad joke.  :-[
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1053 on: May 22, 2018, 08:04:35 PM »
Always use an Amex, you'll thank me one day.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1054 on: May 22, 2018, 08:27:09 PM »
Because that cant even spell money right.  :P
Jokes about spelling should be spelled right. ::)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1055 on: May 22, 2018, 08:41:31 PM »
Jokes about spelling should be spelled right. ::)
no. Still good joke
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1056 on: May 22, 2018, 08:44:42 PM »
Because that cant even spell money right. 
When I was growing up one of the signs going into Monsey had the s erased.
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« Reply #1057 on: May 22, 2018, 08:52:09 PM »
Jokes about spelling should be spelled right. ::)
Blame autocorrect and fat fingers.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1058 on: May 31, 2018, 11:27:52 PM »
Anyone in lakewood has a buying group for buying gold coins from ebay? pls pm

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1059 on: June 06, 2018, 05:40:21 PM »
Another HUGE day! Everyone busy ordering?
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