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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Buying Groups
« Reply #1060 on: June 16, 2018, 06:08:38 PM »
Anyone have info/experience with MYS Buying Group that was featured in the ami this week?

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Re: Buying Groups
« Reply #1061 on: June 16, 2018, 07:44:53 PM »
what was featured about them exactly i do have much experiance with usa buying group

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Anyone have info/experience with MYS Buying Group that was featured in the ami this week?

Top of the line.
I have plenty of experience with them see  this thread for information on the idea of it, and some good reviews of them as well.
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« Reply #1063 on: June 16, 2018, 10:03:00 PM »
Anyone have info/experience with MYS Buying Group that was featured in the ami this week?
Can you post the article/link?

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« Reply #1064 on: June 16, 2018, 10:08:34 PM »
Can you post the article/link?


Join at mysbuyinggroup.com.
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« Reply #1065 on: June 16, 2018, 10:12:52 PM »
Top of the line.
I have plenty of experience with them see  this thread for information on the idea of it, and some good reviews of them as well.

Would recommend them too.

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Thanks.

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« Reply #1067 on: June 16, 2018, 11:19:29 PM »
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def. recommend

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Is using tax-free codes legal for the group?

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Is using tax-free codes legal for the group?
Yes, if you sell to them you are a reseller
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« Reply #1071 on: June 16, 2018, 11:56:30 PM »
Yes, if you sell to them you are a reseller

Got it, makes sense. Thanks.

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« Reply #1072 on: June 17, 2018, 12:02:43 AM »
Yes, if you sell to them you are a reseller
Are you an employee of the company?
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« Reply #1073 on: June 17, 2018, 12:09:36 AM »
Are you an employee of the company?
No I am not, but I deal with them plenty now.
(I also deal with their competitors, and have good reviews for some of them as well.)
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« Reply #1074 on: June 17, 2018, 12:11:02 AM »
No I am not, but I deal with them plenty now.
Then whos tax exempt number are you using?
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« Reply #1075 on: June 17, 2018, 12:16:35 AM »
Then whos tax exempt number are you using?
(I didn't understand the question at first, I thought you assumed I worked for them since I'm backing them... )
You are using the company's tax exempt code, I assume you technically work for them if you are ordering for them.
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« Reply #1076 on: June 17, 2018, 12:19:37 AM »
You are using the company's tax exempt code, I assume you technically work for them if you are ordering for them.
No you are not working for them. Are you a licensed reseller with a resale certificate?
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« Reply #1077 on: June 17, 2018, 02:01:36 AM »
No you are not working for them. Are you a licensed reseller with a resale certificate?
You don't actually need that to get a BB tax exempt code, just the name of your business and the reason for being tax exempt.
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« Reply #1078 on: June 17, 2018, 05:26:52 AM »
You don't actually need that to get a BB tax exempt code, just the name of your business and the reason for being tax exempt.
Understand but the question was using another businesses tax exempt number. So you have a tax exempt number for your business? Does each person need their own reselling business and tax exempt number?
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« Reply #1079 on: June 17, 2018, 09:21:01 AM »
Understand but the question was using another businesses tax exempt number. So you have a tax exempt number for your business? Does each person need their own reselling business and tax exempt number?

The reason buyers on the buying group are able to and allowed to use the tax codes is cause the item is suppose to come to that buying group and then be used for resell which the taxes will be paid for. The buying group business is 100% legal nothing shady
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