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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1220 on: August 30, 2018, 05:25:45 PM »
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USA buying has great customer service (unlike MYS where it is so difficult to communicate or get something resolved). I rarely have ever had a problem with them and if I did, such as them losing a product one time in an entire year, they sent me the money for it immediately. If I ever have questions or issues they are there to resolve it immediately. Just my opinion.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1221 on: September 02, 2018, 04:26:14 PM »
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USA buying has great customer service (unlike MYS where it is so difficult to communicate or get something resolved). I rarely have ever had a problem with them and if I did, such as them losing a product one time in an entire year, they sent me the money for it immediately. If I ever have questions or issues they are there to resolve it immediately. Just my opinion.
My experience was the opposite.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1222 on: September 02, 2018, 11:16:43 PM »
Anyone else get PM's from a account with no posts, regarding above mentioned topics?  When I tried to give at least a corteous response it says inbox full?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1223 on: September 02, 2018, 11:23:10 PM »
Anyone else get PM's from a account with no posts, regarding above mentioned topics?  When I tried to give at least a corteous response it says inbox full?
Can you post the content of what does account wants?

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« Reply #1224 on: September 02, 2018, 11:25:53 PM »
Can you post the content of what does account wants?
The person wants to know how to start a buying group and how to join/how it works ...

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« Reply #1225 on: September 03, 2018, 01:39:28 AM »
Anyone else get PM's from a account with no posts, regarding above mentioned topics?  When I tried to give at least a corteous response it says inbox full?
In another thread it was mentioned that an account with no posts cannot receive pm's.
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« Reply #1226 on: September 03, 2018, 03:58:09 AM »
The person wants to know how to start a buying group and how to join/how it works ...
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1227 on: September 05, 2018, 05:03:33 PM »
& now the buying groups suddenly became coin buyers… Everybody seems to be offering the same exact commission.

I was reading how pfs coins work & quite frankly the buying groups seem a lot more secure. If shipping to your house you get a check on the spot as opposed to pfs where you’re getting it a week or so after you sent it in. Besides for the issue of losing stuff when shipping directly to them buying groups definitely seem like the way to go.

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« Reply #1228 on: September 05, 2018, 05:11:24 PM »
& now the buying groups suddenly became coin buyers… Everybody seems to be offering the same exact commission.

I was reading how pfs coins work & quite frankly the buying groups seem a lot more secure. If shipping to your house you get a check on the spot as opposed to pfs where you’re getting it a week or so after you sent it in. Besides for the issue of losing stuff when shipping directly to them buying groups definitely seem like the way to go.
From what I heard the buying groups are in cahoots with PFS or other such buyers. That would explain the matching comms.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1229 on: September 05, 2018, 05:22:00 PM »
From what I heard the buying groups are in cahoots with PFS or other such buyers. That would explain the matching comms.
How about PFS is paying the buying groups a commission?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1230 on: September 05, 2018, 05:25:34 PM »
It seems like everyone is in bed together over here.... first all the buying groups sending out the exact same emails and then now Dan pushing and promoting these guys as if it’s the hottest dea/price mistake that’s hit the market in the last 5 years?!?!? It’s like one big conspiracy going around and around
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« Reply #1231 on: September 05, 2018, 05:27:09 PM »
It seems like everyone is in bed together over here.... first all the buying groups sending out the exact same emails and then now Dan pushing and promoting these guys as if it’s the hottest dea/price mistake that’s hit the market in the last 5 years?!?!? It’s like one big conspiracy going around and around
Is Alex Jones promoting it too?

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« Reply #1232 on: September 05, 2018, 05:27:18 PM »
It seems like everyone is in bed together over here.... first all the buying groups sending out the exact same emails and then now Dan pushing and promoting these guys as if it’s the hottest dea/price mistake that’s hit the market in the last 5 years?!?!? It’s like one big conspiracy going around and around
Let me sum it up for you, MONEY!!!  :)
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« Reply #1233 on: September 05, 2018, 05:28:27 PM »
Is Alex Jones promoting it too?
He is picking a fight with Rubio.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1234 on: September 05, 2018, 05:43:12 PM »
Who is that nutcase?

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« Reply #1235 on: September 05, 2018, 05:44:25 PM »
Who is that nutcase?
The one on the left or right?
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« Reply #1236 on: September 05, 2018, 05:48:19 PM »
It seems like everyone is in bed together over here.... first all the buying groups sending out the exact same emails and then now Dan pushing and promoting these guys as if it’s the hottest dea/price mistake that’s hit the market in the last 5 years?!?!? It’s like one big conspiracy going around and around
I think his point is that even if the buying groups are in cahoots who cares as long as the commissions are the same better to drop it off locally and get a check on the spot than to have to wait a week to deposit and the extra worry of shipping it

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« Reply #1237 on: September 05, 2018, 05:48:25 PM »
This Alex Jones guy. He seems like a Trump clone. Spewing the same nonsense, lacking common decency and manners. Probably same IQ level of a Kindergarten kid.

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« Reply #1238 on: September 05, 2018, 05:50:54 PM »
This Alex Jones guy. He seems like a Trump clone. Spewing the same nonsense, lacking common decency and manners. Probably same IQ level of a Kindergarten kid.
Be careful with that type of talk. The Trumpsters will come after you.  :)
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« Reply #1239 on: September 05, 2018, 07:05:09 PM »
That's restricted to the Politics thread. I don't step foot into that quagmire.