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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1240 on: September 05, 2018, 07:06:47 PM »
That's restricted to the Politics thread. I don't step foot into that quagmire.
They are everywhere. Speak no ill will of one of their supporters.  :)
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1241 on: September 05, 2018, 07:49:48 PM »
Lucky posted about it too now. What a joke, everyone's in bed together and if something goes wrong someone is gonna get screwed big time.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1242 on: September 05, 2018, 08:06:56 PM »
I like the part where he gave a h/t to another blog, as if it's not a paid ad.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1243 on: September 05, 2018, 08:11:48 PM »
Lucky posted about it too now. What a joke, everyone's in bed together and if something goes wrong someone is gonna get screwed big time.
Link?
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"JS [is] a fetid cesspool of unvarnished linguistic manure, with lots of useless drivel and post-padding." -Moishebatchy

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1245 on: September 05, 2018, 08:27:30 PM »
Looks like he wants to nail all 15,000 coins this time to guarantee the price won't fall.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1246 on: September 05, 2018, 08:32:54 PM »
Looks like he wants to nail all 15,000 coins this time to guarantee the price won't fall.
Other people are buying also so it's unlikely that he'll get all of them.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1247 on: September 05, 2018, 08:35:43 PM »
https://onemileatatime.com/pfs-buyers-club/
Comment #7 on Lucky's article :) :

"Dan from Dansdeals is recommending them after using them a couple of times in the past.

https://www.dansdeals.com/advertisement/purchase-coin-1392-45-mint-get-1443-back/

(This was posted here as a ‘deal’, there’s no way this isn’t a paid ad IMO)."


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1248 on: September 05, 2018, 08:37:01 PM »
Comment #7 on Lucky's article :) :

"Dan from Dansdeals is recommending them after using them a couple of times in the past.

https://www.dansdeals.com/advertisement/purchase-coin-1392-45-mint-get-1443-back/

(This was posted here as a ‘deal’, there’s no way this isn’t a paid ad IMO)."
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1249 on: September 05, 2018, 08:39:24 PM »
I would not want to be @Dan if something went wrong.  :)
nah he’s like trump around here: if something goes wrong he’s impervious to harm 8) his fans still stick to him
nothings impossible- the word itself says Im possible

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1250 on: September 05, 2018, 08:40:35 PM »
IMO this crazy advertising rush was a bad idea for PFS but what do I know.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1251 on: September 05, 2018, 08:45:00 PM »
I think this is the first time im not going to succeed getting one

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1252 on: September 05, 2018, 08:45:14 PM »
nah he’s like trump around here: if something goes wrong he’s impervious to harm 8) his fans still stick to him
...not when money is involved. You remember the TYP fiasco that an unnamed member got him into?  :)
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1253 on: September 05, 2018, 08:46:04 PM »
I think this is the first time im not going to succeed getting one
I will be swimming.  :P
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« Reply #1255 on: September 05, 2018, 08:48:20 PM »
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1256 on: September 06, 2018, 05:07:16 AM »
I’m not sure why but all this publicity is making me weary about the whole buying group industry.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1257 on: September 06, 2018, 07:10:53 AM »
Lucky posted about it too now. What a joke, everyone's in bed together and if something goes wrong someone is gonna get screwed big time.
pretty sure he posted deals for pfs in the past.

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« Reply #1258 on: September 06, 2018, 08:12:39 AM »
pretty sure he posted deals for pfs in the past.

Never went to DOC and luckt before iinm

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1259 on: September 06, 2018, 12:07:42 PM »
Dead