Apology accepted. I know your criticism was coming from the right place. You didn’t want the guy to suffer needlessly by being needlessly exposed. Yet that criticism could have been conveyed to me in a gentler way. From my end, my intention was never to hock, or expose that particular guy needlessly. Even if I was confident that I had both sides of the story with all of the relevant details, I would name him only if it would prevent further harm to people in the event he was actively continuing to solicit people.
My intention in posting the story itself was to warn people of similar guys who are marketing sign up bonuses for giving over their social security # etc. There have been warnings about this for for quite some time; look at the start date of this thread. Yet people continue to sign up for these things, thinking it will never happen to them. And the sad stories just keep on coming.
It’s not even that all of these people are scammers. Some will just use the credit cards they sign people up for to finance their Amazon selling business and the like. Easy way to meet the cc signup threshold to get the bonus points, and easy access to capital for the Amazon business. it sounds like a win win for everyone. Then one bad batch of merchandise is a write off, and they find themselves having to use new credit card signups to buy additional merchandise to sell and pay off the previous credit cards balances that are still outstanding. A couple more losing deals, and what sounded like a sure bet quickly spirals out of control.
People who are desperate or naive hear the good stories with the easy signup bonus money, and don’t want to believe that there really is any risk involved
Hearing that it actually just happened and may ruin a yungerman financially will hopefully drive home the point that these things do happen and convince people to stay away. התורה חסה על ממונם של ישראל.
cmey , It was not nice of me to send you that message especially calling you those names at the end, and also if I wanted to tell you off nicely i should have done it in a more dignified manner instead of lashing out like that, for that I am sorry and I hope you can forgive me. this is part of the pm I sent to cmey, since he posted my message publicly i need to post mine.
and yelped I have done business with many people on this forum who can testify to me being honest ( you can pm me ill provide you a bunch of references, ), not to mention the tens of people that I know for may years and did transactions with face to face. I do not think scamming would be even remotley okay. However just dont think it is right to post story about this Lakewood guy , when he has no chance of ever doing this to anyone again as he for sure is out of business right now.this is a story that should be contained in Lakewood for people there to deal with not posted publicly, I dont know who the guy is but he sounds like someone who slipped up and kept digging a deeper hole because he could not get out of it. however ,it still did not justify me to send cmey that nasty message. as far as this forum is concerned people know me on here and I still could not care less what people write. i think its pretty funny actually that people have time to dwell on something on a message between 2 people.