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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1560 on: December 07, 2018, 02:21:03 PM »
I have 3 to sell, have not given it much thought... what is the going rate right now? eBay > Amazon so you do not get returns or as hard-to-beat scammers?
Rate dropped but remember when’s selling on amazon for 320 you only walk away with much less after fees and shipping
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1561 on: December 07, 2018, 02:22:26 PM »
I have 3 to sell, have not given it much thought... what is the going rate right now? eBay > Amazon so you do not get returns or as hard-to-beat scammers?

I sold 4 on amazon for $315 and one on ebay for $325... better to sell it on Ebay now because they have off selling fees on electronics not sure until when though.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1562 on: December 07, 2018, 04:41:54 PM »
Sold mine locally for $300 each using Offerup

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« Reply #1563 on: December 09, 2018, 09:18:30 AM »
I sold 4 on amazon for $315 and one on ebay for $325... better to sell it on Ebay now because they have off selling fees on electronics not sure until when though.
Whatd you come out with after all fees?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1564 on: December 09, 2018, 09:45:46 AM »
Ebay was 297 I believe and amazon was somewhere in the 260s

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1565 on: December 09, 2018, 09:52:02 AM »
anyone can confirm?
Sounds very much like that’s what it is, hence the criteria
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1566 on: December 11, 2018, 12:06:28 AM »
whats the best way of paying back your credit cards when you get the checks from the buying groups?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1567 on: December 11, 2018, 12:36:36 AM »
Deposit in your account, and pay your card as usual.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1568 on: December 11, 2018, 01:14:50 AM »
Can it cause any issues with all this money going in and out of the account
Deposit in your account, and pay your card as usual.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1569 on: December 11, 2018, 01:16:54 AM »
Can it cause any issues with all this money going in and out of the account
Issues such as? I personally refrain from depositing buying groups checks in Chase.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1570 on: December 11, 2018, 01:37:38 AM »
Issues such as? I personally refrain from depositing buying groups checks in Chase.
+1 I opened a TD account just for buying group checks. Keep them far away from chase

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1571 on: December 11, 2018, 05:33:10 AM »
What are some of the best buying groups? Other than PFS coin group

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1572 on: December 11, 2018, 10:38:36 AM »
Any issues with spending the checks to amex?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1573 on: December 11, 2018, 11:57:31 AM »
Why do you refrain from depositing the check into chase?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1574 on: December 11, 2018, 12:18:06 PM »
Why do you refrain from depositing the check into chase?
Because Chase is known to shutdown all accounts, cc and deposit, for any or no reason.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1575 on: December 11, 2018, 01:12:31 PM »
What are some of the best buying groups? Other than PFS coin group
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« Reply #1577 on: December 14, 2018, 03:09:38 PM »
I think the PSA stickied in the credit card topic should be changed to “PSA: Swipe recklessly for buying groups” and redirect to the Buying Group Master Thread :D
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1578 on: December 15, 2018, 03:07:33 PM »
I think the PSA stickied in the credit card topic should be changed to “PSA: Swipe recklessly for buying groups” and redirect to the Buying Group Master Thread :D
I'll have to argue. I wouldn't consider someone who know what he's doing being reckless.
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« Reply #1579 on: December 16, 2018, 01:22:38 AM »
I'll have to argue. I wouldn't consider someone who know what he's doing being reckless.
There’s definitely a serious amount of risk in these buying groups, although I do use them
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