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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1900 on: February 05, 2019, 12:35:30 AM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/worst-us-cities-for-credit-card-debt-2017-1#21-lakewood-new-jersey-5

Sorry I just googled it. I live in Lakewood and have $0 CC debt too. Obviously i'm not referring to everyone, just to the median.

Lakewood’s average credit card balance actually comes in below the average for the state of NJ, and below the average levels of NY and CT as well so it’s obviously an income skewed statistic, not a reflection of actual dollar credit card debt levels.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/patch.com/new-jersey/ridgewood/amp/27895307/new-jersey-among-states-most-credit-card-debt

And in a study that takes multiple factors into account to rate financial management, Lakewood comes out pretty much in the middle of thousands of cities ranked.

https://wallethub.com/edu/best-cities-at-money-management/19256/
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1901 on: February 08, 2019, 12:59:25 PM »
Any updates to this story?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1902 on: February 10, 2019, 05:38:24 PM »
Another company screwed people close to 12-20M+ Story is slowly getting released

Please don’t PM me for details, I will not reply to any related questions.
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« Reply #1903 on: February 10, 2019, 05:49:28 PM »
Oy
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1904 on: February 10, 2019, 05:50:12 PM »
Another company screwed people close to 12-20M+ Story is slowly getting released

Please don’t PM me for details, I will not reply to any related questions.
Story is slowly getting released
Story not released yet? 12-20 M + is some serious story.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1905 on: February 10, 2019, 05:50:42 PM »
Another company screwed people close to 12-20M+ Story is slowly getting released

Please don’t PM me for details, I will not reply to any related questions.
whats with the latest bad investment/investor?
This one?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1906 on: February 10, 2019, 05:59:33 PM »
Story is slowly getting released
Story not released yet? 12-20 M + is some serious story.

You would be flipping if you would know the $$$$$ amount that people got screwed all together here

All stories combined is a crazy number
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« Reply #1907 on: February 10, 2019, 06:00:32 PM »
Story is slowly getting released
Story not released yet? 12-20 M + is some serious story.

Unfortunately lots of Victims are ashamed and embarrassed
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1908 on: February 10, 2019, 06:05:48 PM »
Unfortunately lots of Victims are ashamed and embarrassed
Too bad it is always the same. Greed+stupid=enrich a crook and fraudster.
Many years ago I read this book, it was basically about investment but covers any other venture, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds written in 1841, any one who reads this book will save themselves a fortune, it is all about crowd behavior.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1909 on: February 10, 2019, 06:42:10 PM »
Calling on Dan to release a DDMS article about this warning the masses.

Its pikuach nefesh

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1910 on: February 10, 2019, 06:44:16 PM »
Calling on Dan to release a DDMS article about this warning the masses.

Its pikuach nefesh
He can't write an article with a bunch of third hand info.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1911 on: February 10, 2019, 06:44:31 PM »
Calling on Dan to release a DDMS article about this warning the masses.

Its pikuach nefesh

I agree. Better late than never. There is a never ending supply of predators out there.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1912 on: February 10, 2019, 06:48:51 PM »
He can't write an article with a bunch of third hand info.
Yup.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1913 on: February 10, 2019, 06:57:08 PM »
He can't write an article with a bunch of third hand info.
Why not?
Mainstream media does it

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1914 on: February 10, 2019, 06:58:08 PM »
Why not?
Mainstream media does it

No, the mainstream media manufactures it.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1915 on: February 10, 2019, 06:59:34 PM »
Calling on Dan to release a DDMS article about this warning the masses.

Its pikuach nefesh

Anyone here get scammed from these people ? Or is it just rumors ?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1916 on: February 10, 2019, 07:03:58 PM »
I know of a few keren yesomims that where invested and gone. #Aputropus
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1917 on: February 10, 2019, 07:08:18 PM »
Why not?
Mainstream media does it
Dan likes to post things after he has the solid data and not jump to conclusions. Happens all the time with him vs a lot of other deal websites.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1918 on: February 10, 2019, 07:09:45 PM »
I know of a few keren yesomims that where invested and gone. #Aputropus

What kind of investment is this? Your not giving $$$ , you giving cc credit..
Instead of collections they just opened CC's for yesomim?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #1919 on: February 10, 2019, 07:14:10 PM »
What kind of investment is this? Your not giving $$$ , you giving cc credit..
Instead of collections they just opened CC's for yesomim?
There are many foolish opportunities out there, not just swiping CC.
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