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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

https://www.mixcloud.com/zev-brenner/talkline-with-zev-brenner-on-credit-card-scams-affecting-the-orthodox-jewish-community/

http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2800 on: February 28, 2019, 11:58:15 PM »
Refuah shaleima
I hope you feel better
Can I get you a mirror with that?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2801 on: March 01, 2019, 12:10:15 AM »
I joined over 4 years ago. Read more, talk/post less. You might want to try that yourself instead of spewing garbage
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2802 on: March 01, 2019, 01:40:49 AM »
I think its time for a "dislike" button on these forums.
Maybe after a certain number of dislikes (downvotes) the member gets banned for 2 weeks.
Obviously I know that aint happening but crony has me wishing it will.
It's actually possible to add a dislike button although it won't have the auto banning capability.

All you have to do is install a duplicate of the "like post" mod on the server and rename the button to dislikes. I'm sure @BAHayman can do it.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2803 on: March 01, 2019, 09:48:19 AM »
I think its time for a "dislike" button on these forums.
Maybe after a certain number of dislikes (downvotes) the member gets banned for 2 weeks.
Obviously I know that aint happening but crony has me wishing it will.

People need to chill and not get worked up over silliness. Life is too short. 

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2804 on: March 01, 2019, 10:57:44 AM »
I'm going to talk with Zev Brenner tomorrow around 11pm about the need to keep your credit card to yourself.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2805 on: March 01, 2019, 11:08:57 AM »
I'm going to talk with Zev Brenner tomorrow around 11pm about the need to keep your credit card to yourself.

Live on radio?

Either way. Please have a recording and transcript posted online.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2806 on: March 01, 2019, 11:09:56 AM »
I'm going to talk with Zev Brenner tomorrow around 11pm about the need to keep your credit card to yourself.
How/where can we tune in?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2807 on: March 01, 2019, 11:22:57 AM »
Live on radio?

Either way. Please have a recording and transcript posted online.
"Live. In NYC it's 620am otherwise online http://www.talklinecommunications.com "
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2808 on: March 01, 2019, 11:26:13 AM »
"Live. In NYC it's 620am otherwise online http://www.talklinecommunications.com "

That show has been going on for a very long time. Longer than quite a few DDFers have been walking on this planet IINM (and probably longer than most currently produced national talk show programs).
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2809 on: March 01, 2019, 11:28:00 AM »
That show has been going on for a very long time. Longer than quite a few DDFers have been walking on this planet IINM.

I don't recall ever hearing that anyone has listened to it. I've seen the ads for it but I dont think I've ever heard anyone say "I was listening to talkline..."
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2810 on: March 01, 2019, 11:28:56 AM »
I'm going to talk with Zev Brenner tomorrow around 11pm about the need to keep your credit card to yourself.
If I hook you up with Rush Limbaugh, would you talk with him ? Many more yidden listen to him. ;)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2811 on: March 01, 2019, 11:29:54 AM »
If I hook you up with Rush Limbaugh, would you talk with him ? Many more yidden listen to him. ;)
Lol, sounds good.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2812 on: March 01, 2019, 11:31:03 AM »
I don't recall ever hearing that anyone has listened to it. I've seen the ads for it but I dont think I've ever heard anyone say "I was listening to talkline..."

I don't know if it's a show people tune into every מוצ"ש, but definitely one that people on occasion tune into, and he often brings interesting guests and topics. This is one that pops into memory right away.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2813 on: March 01, 2019, 11:33:01 AM »
I don't know if it's a show people tune into every מוצ"ש, but definitely one that people on occasion tune into, and he often brings interesting guests and topics. This is one that pops into memory right away.
The young crowd whipping out the cards probably never even heard of him.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2814 on: March 01, 2019, 11:33:44 AM »
The young crowd whipping out the cards probably never even heard of him.
There will be a transcript to listen to afterward.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2815 on: March 01, 2019, 11:34:48 AM »
The young crowd whipping out the cards probably never even heard of him.

Absolutely true. But with the right buzz (on WhatsApp groups). A podcast to go around (or excerpts) and a transcript, they will find out about him. He's definitely respected and does a good job.
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« Reply #2816 on: March 01, 2019, 11:35:48 AM »
There will be a transcript to listen to afterward.

That would be amazing. A transcript to be fed to some Text-to-Voice software so we could listen to it!  ;D
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2817 on: March 01, 2019, 11:36:33 AM »
There will be a transcript to listen to afterward.
Make sure to have lots of caffeine on hand. He has that power.

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« Reply #2818 on: March 01, 2019, 11:38:04 AM »
Make sure to have lots of caffeine on hand. He has that power.

ALOL
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2819 on: March 01, 2019, 11:46:01 AM »
That show has been going on for a very long time. Longer than quite a few DDFers have been walking on this planet IINM (and probably longer than most currently produced national talk show programs).
My first thought when Dan posted that was "Zev Brenner still has his radio show??"