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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2840 on: March 02, 2019, 11:28:41 PM »
These 3
Yea, I realized after that you had posted that.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2841 on: March 02, 2019, 11:32:17 PM »
So Twersky - who represents the merchant - is now giving advice to victims?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2842 on: March 02, 2019, 11:33:33 PM »
A new logo for Dan- “He knows when he sees a good deal & he knows when he sees a bad deal” :D

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2843 on: March 02, 2019, 11:35:11 PM »
So Twersky - who represents the merchant - is now giving advice to victims?
You mean to "investors"

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2844 on: March 02, 2019, 11:36:00 PM »
So Twersky - who represents the merchant - is now giving advice to victims?
He's also representing a guy that disputed charges... That what makes this story so strange and ironic...
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2845 on: March 02, 2019, 11:38:16 PM »
You mean to "investors"
I should push back more on that. What should they be called?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2846 on: March 02, 2019, 11:38:53 PM »
I should push back more on that. What should they be called?
victims?

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« Reply #2847 on: March 02, 2019, 11:39:26 PM »
A new logo for Dan- “He knows when he sees a good deal & he knows when he sees a bad deal” :D
Lol
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2848 on: March 02, 2019, 11:40:13 PM »
That’s Jackie Mason ;D

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« Reply #2849 on: March 02, 2019, 11:40:33 PM »
"JS [is] a fetid cesspool of unvarnished linguistic manure, with lots of useless drivel and post-padding." -Moishebatchy

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2850 on: March 02, 2019, 11:41:27 PM »
victims?
At the very least they were lenders, not investors.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2851 on: March 02, 2019, 11:46:27 PM »
"Sam from Crown Heights" does not sound like he's from Crown Heights.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2852 on: March 02, 2019, 11:48:15 PM »
At the very least they were lenders, not investors.
+1, there was never any thought that they would share in profits.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2853 on: March 02, 2019, 11:48:31 PM »
"Sam from Crown Heights" does not sound like he's from Crown Heights.

no kidding

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2854 on: March 02, 2019, 11:48:37 PM »
"Sam from Crown Heights" does not sound like he's from Crown Heights.
Why not ? Dan & Benny are 1 & the same, no ? :)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2855 on: March 02, 2019, 11:48:46 PM »
What is going on over there? Too many ppl talking at the same time... When did the show start??
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2856 on: March 02, 2019, 11:50:46 PM »
@TimT is on a roll tonight
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2857 on: March 02, 2019, 11:51:58 PM »
Well said, Dan!!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2858 on: March 02, 2019, 11:56:38 PM »
"Sam from Crown Heights" does not sound like he's from Crown Heights.
+1
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #2859 on: March 03, 2019, 12:00:32 AM »
This whole thing is twisted. Twersky represents the defendant/s.