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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

https://www.mixcloud.com/zev-brenner/talkline-with-zev-brenner-on-credit-card-scams-affecting-the-orthodox-jewish-community/

http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3001 on: March 03, 2019, 07:59:22 PM »
Did you listen to the radio show yesterday?

Link?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3002 on: March 03, 2019, 07:59:45 PM »
Did you listen to the radio show yesterday?

Tried to log in afterwards and couldn’t access it
Anyone have a link to the interview ?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3006 on: March 03, 2019, 08:21:06 PM »
Did you listen to the radio show yesterday?

Do you have a recording?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3007 on: March 03, 2019, 08:43:03 PM »
I guess you didn't read the case I posted upthread.
I actually found the case that you posted about last week Thursday (after googling A Twersky), that's why i kept on posting upthread that Twersky is also representing an individual who disputed charges.... he's working on opposite ends on 2 BIG cases that everyone is talking about... it's the most twisted thing EVER!!
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3008 on: March 03, 2019, 08:45:24 PM »
I actually found the case that you posted about last week Thursday (after googling A Twersky), that's why i kept on posting upthread that Twersky is also representing an individual who disputed charges.... he's working on opposite ends on 2 BIG cases that everyone is talking about... it's the most twisted thing EVER!!
please repost the link

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3009 on: March 03, 2019, 08:45:36 PM »
Better than thinking what you have to say on Whatsapp is private and then having it subpoenaed as it will be based on the other case I linked to above.
Was not subpoenaed, the borrower is cooperating fully with the Cong.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3011 on: March 03, 2019, 08:49:42 PM »
Was not subpoenaed, the borrower is cooperating fully with the Cong.
Didn't look that closely, but regardless, why wouldn't it come up during discovery?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3012 on: March 03, 2019, 08:54:08 PM »
Hope that story is not true and that someone posted it for illustrative purposes only

It sounds true but is a somewhat unrelated to the situation at hand. Loaning money to immediate family is normally expected to be on the safe side. (Assuming one’s family is not dysfunctional)

This should serve as a warning.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3013 on: March 03, 2019, 08:55:53 PM »
please repost the link
it's in the wiki
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3014 on: March 03, 2019, 08:59:27 PM »
Tried to log in afterwards and couldn’t access it
Anyone have a link to the interview ?

Perhaps someone would like to summarize the main points brought up in the interview, since most of those reading this forum seem to have missed it.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3015 on: March 03, 2019, 09:04:01 PM »
Hope that story is not true and that someone posted it for illustrative purposes only
i can confirm at least part of the story, but again he sums it up quite well, he's got no one to blame but his own stupidity
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3017 on: March 03, 2019, 09:17:42 PM »
it's in the wiki

No it’s not
Can someone please post the recording of the interview
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3018 on: March 03, 2019, 09:28:05 PM »
No it’s not
Can someone please post the recording of the interview
Doesn't seem to exist. These guys are living in the age of FM radio #adjust the wire hanger

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3019 on: March 03, 2019, 09:28:57 PM »
I'm told that it's being uploaded.
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