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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3240 on: March 07, 2019, 10:23:42 AM »
How did it go? Or are you under embargo?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3241 on: March 07, 2019, 10:52:03 AM »


1. I say um too much.


Many speakers use crutches in their speech pattern. Its normal and if you are cognizant of it then it will diminish over time. Learned not to use the word "like" too much.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3242 on: March 07, 2019, 10:56:17 AM »
This Zev apparently never visited DDMS, he repeatedly defines Dan's role as "Helping people with what is a good deal & what is a bad deal" and he even asks Dan to give a quick example on how to know what is a good or bad deal.. So Dan became a deal counselor for that show..
It doesn't seem that Zev did any research on this topic at all, therefor he come across very monotonous, and I'm sure Dan had the same sense, Dan has much more knowledge and expertise to share.
That's how it works when you bring guests on a talk show to talk about their subject of expertise.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3243 on: March 07, 2019, 10:58:37 AM »
Perhaps its time to add public speaking, to the list of things yeshivas ought to teach.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3244 on: March 07, 2019, 11:39:03 AM »
Can everyone stop with the 36% # or similar? It's simply ridiculous. The reason these guys are swiping is so they get a 50-60 day loan, which is 22% max, and that's assuming 3% which from having some experience in the industry is probably on the higher end of what the fees would be. A more accurate # would be 15-18%.
+1
I was recently approached by someone who wanted to start such a scheme
1)according to him most suppliers charge a about 3% surcharge for paying by credit card.
2) his plan was to do a 57 day cycle reducing the number to about 18%
3) he wanted to split the points (not in half), lowering it to about 12%, thus making it cheaper than hard money. (I told him there's no one that would agree to such terms, to which he claimed he already has such a group)
4) he also wanted to take advantage of some sort of statement credit for buying Apple.
5) he completely agreed that if the numbers were 36%, that clearly means that that person can't even get a hard money loan, and in no way shape or form should you be giving this person money.
6) his pitch was very clearly supposed to sound like an investment. Giving people the "opportunity" to invest money even if they don't have any. As if he was doing some sort of favor for everyone.

I pretty much told him to go jump in a lake and there have been ppl screwed already.. he's like what do you mean "I'm a frum guy, I live in the community, this is where I daven..."

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3245 on: March 07, 2019, 01:36:39 PM »
+1
I was recently approached by someone who wanted to start such a scheme
1)according to him most suppliers charge a about 3% surcharge for paying by credit card.
2) his plan was to do a 57 day cycle reducing the number to about 18%
3) he wanted to split the points (not in half), lowering it to about 12%, thus making it cheaper than hard money. (I told him there's no one that would agree to such terms, to which he claimed he already has such a group)
4) he also wanted to take advantage of some sort of statement credit for buying Apple.
5) he completely agreed that if the numbers were 36%, that clearly means that that person can't even get a hard money loan, and in no way shape or form should you be giving this person money.
6) his pitch was very clearly supposed to sound like an investment. Giving people the "opportunity" to invest money even if they don't have any. As if he was doing some sort of favor for everyone.

I pretty much told him to go jump in a lake and there have been ppl screwed already.. he's like what do you mean "I'm a frum guy, I live in the community, this is where I daven..."

while a terrible idea his points are legit. Except, it should be his cards.



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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3246 on: March 07, 2019, 01:50:00 PM »
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@Dan can you please post the English version here.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3247 on: March 07, 2019, 02:18:58 PM »
#Elal #releasethetapes #therewasasecondmicrophone

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3248 on: March 07, 2019, 02:24:28 PM »
+1
I was recently approached by someone who wanted to start such a scheme
1)according to him most suppliers charge a about 3% surcharge for paying by credit card.
2) his plan was to do a 57 day cycle reducing the number to about 18%
3) he wanted to split the points (not in half), lowering it to about 12%, thus making it cheaper than hard money. (I told him there's no one that would agree to such terms, to which he claimed he already has such a group)
4) he also wanted to take advantage of some sort of statement credit for buying Apple.
5) he completely agreed that if the numbers were 36%, that clearly means that that person can't even get a hard money loan, and in no way shape or form should you be giving this person money.
6) his pitch was very clearly supposed to sound like an investment. Giving people the "opportunity" to invest money even if they don't have any. As if he was doing some sort of favor for everyone.

I pretty much told him to go jump in a lake and there have been ppl screwed already.. he's like what do you mean "I'm a frum guy, I live in the community, this is where I daven..."

Wow, so you’d take ALL the risk, get NONE of the profits of his business and only get SOME of the points?  Sounds like you should totally make that “investment” because he davens with you...LOL!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3249 on: March 07, 2019, 02:25:07 PM »
@Dan can you please post the English version here.

Is wasn't made by @Dan - was done here > https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=101820.0

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3251 on: March 07, 2019, 02:38:54 PM »
I’m connected with a magazine that would gladly make a full fledged interview with victims for the purpose of awareness, free of charge. If interested please PM.

Bump.

Reminder:  ;)

Can vouch that this magazine's readership is exactly those who have been whipping out cards. Kudos to @ruv for taking the initiative and I hope people take him up on it.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3252 on: March 07, 2019, 03:20:20 PM »
It's not fair to insult his writing like that.

I meant that in a positive way of course.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3253 on: March 07, 2019, 03:45:41 PM »
How did it go? Or are you under embargo?
1st part we obviously agreed on.
Tough debate on price mistakes. We're not going to see eye to eye on that one and I could have done better, but I think I did OK in the end of the debate.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3254 on: March 07, 2019, 04:05:40 PM »
1st part we obviously agreed on.
Tough debate on price mistakes. We're not going to see eye to eye on that one and I could have done better, but I think I did OK in the end of the debate.
cant wait to hear it