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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

https://www.mixcloud.com/zev-brenner/talkline-with-zev-brenner-on-credit-card-scams-affecting-the-orthodox-jewish-community/

http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3460 on: March 18, 2019, 04:51:09 PM »
And why is the shlemazel stuff allowed to stay?
Because it's JS.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3461 on: March 18, 2019, 05:00:03 PM »
If it's not free shipping it's not worth it.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3463 on: March 25, 2019, 09:48:34 PM »
Someone told me about a guy who helps people dispute charges successfully when they borrowed large sums for people and are not getting paid back. He officially discloses that it was a loan and still wins the dispute. Anyone hear or knows about this?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3464 on: March 25, 2019, 11:32:25 PM »
Impossible.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3465 on: March 25, 2019, 11:40:18 PM »
Heard the same, no details though.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3466 on: March 26, 2019, 01:46:40 AM »
Someone gave me contact info, the guy takes 25%.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3467 on: March 26, 2019, 08:43:20 AM »
Impossible.
-1 and someone posted a personal story up thread, about a company called transmedia that his relative used and won.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3468 on: March 26, 2019, 08:57:03 AM »
Either way, doesn't smell right.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3469 on: March 26, 2019, 11:14:04 AM »
Either way, doesn't smell right.
it smells like cash, they charge 30% and they get it disputed.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3470 on: March 26, 2019, 11:16:29 AM »
Someone told me about a guy who helps people dispute charges successfully when they borrowed large sums for people and are not getting paid back. He officially discloses that it was a loan and still wins the dispute. Anyone hear or knows about this?
-1 and someone posted a personal story up thread, about a company called transmedia that his relative used and won.
they are working for sterling electronics (and other scammers) they wont take u if it has anything to do with those peeps.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3471 on: March 26, 2019, 01:33:28 PM »
they are working for sterling electronics (and other scammers) they wont take u if it has anything to do with those peeps.

why would sterling and other scammers hire them ?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3472 on: March 26, 2019, 01:35:16 PM »
why would sterling and other scammers hire them ?
to fight all the charge backs
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3473 on: March 26, 2019, 01:51:51 PM »
to fight all the charge backs

That’s ridiculous
So instead of trying to pay back any of let’s say 10 million
They will just pay another company 2.5 million to screw everyone even more
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3474 on: March 26, 2019, 01:52:46 PM »
That’s ridiculous
So instead of trying to pay back any of let’s say 10 million
They will just pay another company 2.5 million to screw everyone even more
read the comments on dans PSA article
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3475 on: March 26, 2019, 04:51:43 PM »
Hi all,

If anyone is a victim from credit cards scams
There is a Law group that is looking to take on this case and is looking for victims to join together

Yes! They are asking 10k for each victims -(Couple are considered one)

If you are a victim and looking to join
Please PM me for more information

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3476 on: March 26, 2019, 04:52:23 PM »
Hi all,

If anyone is a victim from credit cards scams
There is a Law group that is looking to take on this case and is looking for victims to join together

Yes! They are asking 10k for each victims -(Couple are considered one)

If you are a victim and looking to join
Please PM me for more information
Can't find any to work on contingency?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3477 on: March 26, 2019, 05:18:40 PM »
Hi all,

If anyone is a victim from credit cards scams
There is a Law group that is looking to take on this case and is looking for victims to join together

Yes! They are asking 10k for each victims -(Couple are considered one)

If you are a victim and looking to join
Please PM me for more information
What are they hoping to get for the clients?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3478 on: March 26, 2019, 05:33:29 PM »
Are they seeking 10k in damages FOR the victims?  Or looking for 10k retainer FROM the victims?  Post is written poorly

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3479 on: March 26, 2019, 05:37:42 PM »
Are they seeking 10k in damages FOR the victims?  Or looking for 10k retainer FROM the victims?  Post is written poorly

Sounds like he meant “from” the victims.