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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3700 on: November 21, 2019, 02:42:48 PM »
Is that the standard BG practice now? for each buyer to open their own "exempt" membership?
No, although things will change when the bby te policy goes into effect

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3701 on: November 21, 2019, 02:45:24 PM »
No, although things will change when the bby te policy goes into effect
it's partially in effect already. you already can't update a TE number

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3702 on: November 21, 2019, 02:48:17 PM »
it's partially in effect already. you already can't update a TE number
It's been like that for many months already.. being that there wasn't many deals most people didn't notice... Fresh Accounts are easy to make for now..

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3703 on: November 21, 2019, 02:49:20 PM »
No, although things will change when the bby te policy goes into effect
Must have missed that.

What is the new TE policy?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3704 on: November 21, 2019, 02:49:34 PM »
Is that the standard BG practice now? for each buyer to open their own "exempt" membership?
Not having your own number you are playing with fire. You know what happens when you play with fire?  :)
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3705 on: November 21, 2019, 02:56:53 PM »
Not having your own number you are playing with fire. You know what happens when you play with fire?  :)
is the cooperation of the end buyer necessary in order to get a number/certificate?

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« Reply #3706 on: November 21, 2019, 02:58:18 PM »
is the cooperation of the end buyer necessary in order to get a number/certificate?
Not sure what you are asking but anyone can get a number/certificate.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3707 on: November 21, 2019, 03:09:05 PM »
Not having your own number you are playing with fire. You know what happens when you play with fire?  :)
why is it playing with fire?   Just with BB or with amazon as well?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3708 on: November 21, 2019, 03:10:05 PM »
Not having your own number you are playing with fire. You know what happens when you play with fire?  :)
Pardon the ignorance, But what's so bad with using the buying groups TE code?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3709 on: November 21, 2019, 03:11:33 PM »
why is it playing with fire?   Just with BB or with amazon as well?
Pardon the ignorance, But what's so bad with using the buying groups TE code?
Are you an employee of the company?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3710 on: November 21, 2019, 03:12:23 PM »
is the cooperation of the end buyer necessary in order to get a number/certificate?
Unless you willing to file taxes quarterly, you'll need the BG cooperation in obtaining your own TE code.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3711 on: November 21, 2019, 03:14:08 PM »
Are you an employee of the company?
I am buying the items for them, no?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3712 on: November 21, 2019, 03:15:57 PM »
I am buying the items for them, no?
So you are a sub-contractor? See where this is going?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3713 on: November 21, 2019, 03:16:52 PM »
So you are a sub-contractor? See where this is going?
I'm self employed, lending my services to the company.

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« Reply #3714 on: November 21, 2019, 03:21:57 PM »
I'm self employed, lending my services to the company.
Cool then why don't you have your own TE certificate? Read BB T&C's and states you need your own.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3715 on: November 21, 2019, 03:30:36 PM »
Unless you willing to file taxes quarterly, you'll need the BG cooperation in obtaining your own TE code.
Since when did having your own tax exempt number require you to file taxes quarterly?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3716 on: November 21, 2019, 03:41:28 PM »
Since when did having your own tax exempt number require you to file taxes quarterly?
How do you get a tax exemption certificate from the state?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3717 on: November 21, 2019, 04:38:24 PM »
Not having your own number you are playing with fire. You know what happens when you play with fire?  :)
You get a slap on the wrist?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3718 on: November 21, 2019, 05:19:29 PM »
You get a slap on the wrist?
Nope and you don't get your hand put on a hot coil either because it doesn't work.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3719 on: November 21, 2019, 10:09:40 PM »
How do you get a tax exemption certificate from the state?
have a registered business and get business documents from the state
you then send that to best buy or whomever fill out a specific form and hope they give you  a tax free account
some retailers do and some don't