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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3980 on: November 07, 2020, 09:43:48 PM »
You're probably right that the question would be מחוסר אמנה rather than מי שפרע

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3981 on: November 07, 2020, 09:45:13 PM »
This was handeled at length (by palladium coin) by the choshen mishpat beis din in Lakewood - R' Dov Kahn. It was posted at the time. 

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3982 on: November 07, 2020, 09:48:45 PM »
This was handeled at length (by palladium coin) by the choshen mishpat beis din in Lakewood - R' Dov Kahn. It was posted at the time.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3984 on: November 16, 2020, 10:44:05 PM »
Are there BG s? that buy electronics and how do I find them?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3985 on: November 16, 2020, 11:05:52 PM »
Are there BG s? that buy electronics and how do I find them?
Just curious, how many PM’s did you get so far?


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3986 on: November 16, 2020, 11:10:16 PM »
Just curious, how many PM’s did you get so far?
ALOL
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3987 on: November 17, 2020, 02:16:17 PM »
What was not mentioned about one of the possible reasons somebody would buy at cost, besides points, If you are carrying a balance in your card, you could cycle your monthly debt and come out ahead, it's tricky and a lot can go wrong.

Bg is a disaster from what I'm reading, unlimited points have become like a virus for many and an addiction.

Realistically speaking I have been doing most of my travel lately on so many different promos, for a couple of dollars I have been able to fight too many US cities on JetBlue and get promotional points essentially spent $115 to five rounds with to three cities that I wanted to visit and also got 5,000 point bonus I'm aiming for the seven round trip flights for the 7,000 point bonus etc

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3988 on: November 18, 2020, 05:19:06 PM »
What is the going check in time for MYS? Have had a couple packages delivered for a week but haven’t been checked in yet.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3989 on: November 18, 2020, 07:50:23 PM »
What is the going check in time for MYS? Have had a couple packages delivered for a week but haven’t been checked in yet.
been extremely delayed lately

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3990 on: November 18, 2020, 08:14:13 PM »
What is the going check in time for MYS? Have had a couple packages delivered for a week but haven’t been checked in yet.
they sent this message on Sunday
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*Important Delaware Update*

As of today, Sunday, 11/15/2020 at 3pm, our warehouse has checked in all packages up until (but NOT including) November 4th.


If you have any missing tracking numbers, which we have confirmed were NOT received, please fill out the below form so we can start an investigation.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1rZyaTuTrXSTWVx_kuD7CSp08fe6yQzmLwIeae2NYeUc/edit

We thank you for your continued support, and wish you a pleasant week.
120 characters? Hmm, I wonder what I could write with 64 characters. Boy, it's gonna be hard to use up 15 characters. W-

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3991 on: November 18, 2020, 11:36:49 PM »
PAYING $125 commission on $500 spend.

We have a new opportunity for you to purchase an item for us and earn $125! The item is going on sale tomorrow at 3:00pm so sign up now.


Any idea what this is about?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3992 on: November 18, 2020, 11:42:28 PM »
Probably xbox/PS5

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3993 on: November 18, 2020, 11:43:31 PM »
Always praying for delayed baggage.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3994 on: November 18, 2020, 11:44:12 PM »
Lol, edited my post a second before you posted..

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3995 on: November 19, 2020, 10:22:01 PM »
PAYING $125 commission on $500 spend.

We have a new opportunity for you to purchase an item for us and earn $125! The item is going on sale tomorrow at 3:00pm so sign up now.


Any idea what this is about?
From MYS?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3996 on: November 19, 2020, 10:39:15 PM »
From MYS?
Nope. I stay far away from them.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3997 on: November 19, 2020, 11:35:03 PM »
PAYING $125 commission on $500 spend.

We have a new opportunity for you to purchase an item for us and earn $125! The item is going on sale tomorrow at 3:00pm so sign up now.


Any idea what this is about?
impossible to purchase at this point  maybe next week they will loosen up inventory

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3998 on: November 20, 2020, 09:41:01 AM »
impossible to purchase at this point  maybe next week they will loosen up inventory
It's clearly bots. Not humanly possible to order that fast.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #3999 on: November 20, 2020, 10:23:17 AM »
been extremely delayed lately
In general with buying groups when its the season of buying, they get tons more packages than usual, it takes time for them to open every box and scan what came in, they only have so much man power