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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4020 on: November 23, 2020, 09:25:40 AM »
as everyone is going to the other groups
They will lose all the Mr Savvy who know how to negotiate the best commission etc

They will be left with thousands of muggles who don’t know better and are just fine with them. Like any other business that has competitors who offer better yet are able to retain a base.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4021 on: November 23, 2020, 11:08:55 AM »
Anyone have link for pinnacle BG?
Still looking for a good MS method :)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4022 on: November 23, 2020, 12:59:02 PM »

PS I heard from a friend that works for a buying group that all the groups think that it’s a matter of time that MYS goes under and they are getting smaller and smaller...
TBH they have been very good recently with payments.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4023 on: November 23, 2020, 03:44:42 PM »
Anyone have link for pinnacle BG?
Pinnaclewholesalegroup.com
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4025 on: November 24, 2020, 10:04:05 AM »
seems like tons of new groups popping up (all using that same software). Maybe they will force the big guys to offer commission and pay faster. This is the third that I have just recently heard of (pinnacle and emb are the others)
The guy who made the software isnt charging monthly fees anymore, he is taking commission

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4026 on: November 24, 2020, 10:07:16 AM »
The guy who made the software isnt charging monthly fees anymore, he is taking commission
Good for him. It's a fantastically built system.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4027 on: November 24, 2020, 10:45:18 AM »
Good for him. It's a fantastically built system.
I'm just saying that its easier to open a buying a group, you don't need to pay a monthly fee when starting up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4028 on: November 24, 2020, 02:15:09 PM »
Who is z tech buying group?
Shloffen Shloft Zich

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4029 on: November 24, 2020, 07:25:58 PM »
Are there any real risks to making your Amazon account tax exempt? closeoutnj wants Amazon to be shipped to NJ and the only way to do that is by letting them make your account tax exempt
Still looking for a good MS method :)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4030 on: November 24, 2020, 07:27:22 PM »
MYS has been sending me their deals the last few days.  Did not buy for them in two years. Must be some desperate times
#TYH

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4031 on: November 24, 2020, 07:44:44 PM »
MYS has been sending me their deals the last few days.  Did not buy for them in two years. Must be some desperate times
Me too!  Could just be a new email system though...
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4033 on: November 25, 2020, 01:52:40 AM »
Are there any real risks to making your Amazon account tax exempt? closeoutnj wants Amazon to be shipped to NJ and the only way to do that is by letting them make your account tax exempt
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4034 on: November 25, 2020, 10:58:07 AM »
Are there any real risks to making your Amazon account tax exempt? closeoutnj wants Amazon to be shipped to NJ and the only way to do that is by letting them make your account tax exempt
I've done it a year or two ago, no issues so far bh.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4035 on: November 25, 2020, 12:50:30 PM »
ordered a check today from mys, an hour later it came in.
good job, keep up the good work!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4036 on: November 25, 2020, 12:52:08 PM »
TBH they have been very good recently with payments.
Yup.
Requested a check and received it the next day!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4037 on: November 25, 2020, 12:58:36 PM »
ordered a check today from mys, an hour later it came in.
good job, keep up the good work!
Wow!
Going to try it now.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4038 on: November 25, 2020, 01:23:22 PM »
ordered a check today from mys, an hour later it came in.
good job, keep up the good work!
This is not the time of year for them to play shtick and make everyone upset.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4039 on: November 25, 2020, 01:37:32 PM »
ordered a check today from mys, an hour later it came in.
good job, keep up the good work!
Yup.
Requested a check and received it the next day!
As mentioned  :)
I actually recently (and surprisingly) got a check real quick!

But is Points Maker still the go to?
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