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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4080 on: December 17, 2020, 10:57:13 AM »
Only dealt with them once. Great experience. Super quick service. I slowed down with them when they started asking to send Amazon to NJ
For now I'm mainly doing EMB which is great too but not as quick
How does it compare to PM?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4081 on: December 17, 2020, 11:06:31 AM »
How does it compare to PM?
IME EMB is quicker than PM and wayyy more active in terms of available deals
Still looking for a good MS method :)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4082 on: December 17, 2020, 12:06:23 PM »
IME recently MYS has been taking a while to check in my packages, however I've been getting my checks hours after I request.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4083 on: December 17, 2020, 12:40:57 PM »
Only dealt with them once. Great experience. Super quick service. I slowed down with them when they started asking to send Amazon to NJ
For now I'm mainly doing EMB which is great too but not as quick

What does EMB stand for?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4084 on: December 17, 2020, 12:51:20 PM »
whats going on with mys?
they are 2 weeks behind on checking in item
Was your package shipped by Amazon? They claim the stated delivery date on Amazon tracking has been unreliable lately.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4085 on: December 17, 2020, 02:07:36 PM »
Was your package shipped by Amazon? They claim the stated delivery date on Amazon tracking has been unreliable lately.
Only to them?but to Clousout it is reliable?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4086 on: December 17, 2020, 02:15:09 PM »
Only to them?but to Clousout it is reliable?

Closeout might be receiving orders through UPS or USPS. I know PM does and MYS doesn't. Probably depends on where their address is.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4087 on: December 17, 2020, 02:27:41 PM »
Closeout might be receiving orders through UPS or USPS. I know PM does and MYS doesn't. Probably depends on where their address is.
Mys gets all and so does Clousout.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4088 on: December 17, 2020, 03:07:09 PM »
What does EMB stand for?
embdeals.com
Still looking for a good MS method :)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4089 on: December 17, 2020, 03:24:26 PM »
embdeals.com
I created an account with them a while ago and have never seen a deal posted there...

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4090 on: December 17, 2020, 03:27:55 PM »
I created an account with them a while ago and have never seen a deal posted there...
WhatsApp? They have multiple daily usually
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4091 on: December 17, 2020, 03:31:00 PM »
WhatsApp? They have multiple daily usually
I keep looking in their portal under deals. What’s the WhatsApp number?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4092 on: December 17, 2020, 03:32:24 PM »
I keep looking in their portal under deals. What’s the WhatsApp number?
+1 (718) 290-6349. PM with buyer ID
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4093 on: December 17, 2020, 04:07:56 PM »
Mys gets all and so does Clousout.

I've ordered to MYS dozens of times, every single Amazon order was shipped by Amazon themselves.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4094 on: December 17, 2020, 04:12:55 PM »
I've ordered to MYS dozens of times, every single Amazon order was shipped by Amazon themselves.
I've ordered about 1000 times plenty of them shipped USPS UPS.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4095 on: December 17, 2020, 04:28:19 PM »
I've ordered about 1000 times plenty of them shipped USPS UPS.

In that case I take it back, however, I still think it possible that Amazon's tracking system is messed up and that accounts for the delay. Maybe they get more Amazon direct deliveries?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4096 on: December 17, 2020, 06:35:57 PM »
What does EMB stand for?
earn money buying deals

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4097 on: December 17, 2020, 06:41:25 PM »
In that case I take it back, however, I still think it possible that Amazon's tracking system is messed up and that accounts for the delay. Maybe they get more Amazon direct deliveries?
definitely a higher percentage of "may be missing" with Amazon shipping

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4098 on: December 17, 2020, 06:44:12 PM »
closeoutnj.com is amazing, they check in items same day, got a check 15 minutes after I requested it.
can some others chime in on their experiences with closeoutnj.com ?
if they check in same day and produce checks immediately, that sounds pretty good

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4099 on: December 17, 2020, 06:45:59 PM »
I've ordered about 1000 times plenty of them shipped USPS UPS.
+1000