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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4100 on: December 17, 2020, 07:09:58 PM »
I created an account with them a while ago and have never seen a deal posted there...
They need to accept you and then add you to the whatsapp broadcast

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4101 on: December 18, 2020, 07:40:49 PM »
MYS hasn't checked in any of my December packages yet. the earliest of mine got delivered by UPS on December 7th.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4102 on: December 21, 2020, 10:05:54 AM »
MYS hasn't checked in any of my December packages yet. the earliest of mine got delivered by UPS on December 7th.

fingers crossed
mys is starting to smell foul,
im holding off my orders for now, and thinking of starting to cancel unfulfilled orders

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4103 on: December 21, 2020, 10:10:25 AM »
mys is starting to smell foul,
Starting?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4104 on: December 21, 2020, 11:37:44 AM »
Starting?
these days ppl are having a hard time smelling

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4105 on: December 21, 2020, 01:12:44 PM »
mys is starting to smell foul,
im holding off my orders for now, and thinking of starting to cancel unfulfilled orders
How do you figure?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4106 on: December 21, 2020, 01:18:18 PM »
How do you figure?
how do i figure what?
they are weeks behind in checking in packages.
if they have so many packages, they should be having more workers working on checking them in.
in the past during heavy seasons they have been behind, but never so badly exaggerated
 
something smells fishy (ive heard that even ppl who largely lost their sense of smell can still smell very strong odors)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4107 on: December 21, 2020, 01:32:06 PM »
how do i figure what?
they are weeks behind in checking in packages.
if they have so many packages, they should be having more workers working on checking them in.
in the past during heavy seasons they have been behind, but never so badly exaggerated
 
something smells fishy (ive heard that even ppl who largely lost their sense of smell can still smell very strong odors)
I think they are sacrificing quick check-ins with the instant checks. They have been paying out requests pretty much same day of request and often multiple times per day. USA on the other hand is 2 weeks behind on checks and are pretty similar to MYS in Check-ins

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4108 on: December 21, 2020, 01:46:38 PM »
I think they are sacrificing quick check-ins with the instant checks. They have been paying out requests pretty much same day of request and often multiple times per day. USA on the other hand is 2 weeks behind on checks and are pretty similar to MYS in Check-ins
its nice to get ur checks quick, but not knowing if ur package made it or not, if u will have to fight with amazon about it, is much worse than waiting for ur check

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4109 on: December 21, 2020, 01:49:12 PM »
its nice to get ur checks quick, but not knowing if ur package made it or not, if u will have to fight with amazon about it, is much worse than waiting for ur check
It might be worse emotionally, but doesn't make them smell bad.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4110 on: December 21, 2020, 02:04:02 PM »
It might be worse emotionally, but doesn't make them smell bad.
2+ weeks behind on checking in packages? that smells pretty bad to me

i hope none of the packages get wet, because then they will really smell...

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4111 on: December 21, 2020, 02:26:55 PM »
USA is now over a month behind to check in items. PM has been the best overall IME.
Always use an Amex, you'll thank me one day.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4112 on: December 21, 2020, 02:48:30 PM »
USA is now over a month behind to check in items. PM has been the best overall IME.
the stench around USA doesnt make MYS' smell any better

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4113 on: December 21, 2020, 03:19:41 PM »
PM has been the best overall IME.
5 total deals per year pretty much

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4114 on: December 21, 2020, 03:41:11 PM »
5 deals in the past week
FTFY

Mys can't seems to remember how much commission they promise.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4115 on: December 21, 2020, 03:43:35 PM »
FTFY

Mys can't seems to remember how much commission they promise.
+1

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4116 on: December 21, 2020, 03:45:43 PM »
clousoutnj is super quick with check-in and payouts.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4117 on: December 21, 2020, 04:00:11 PM »
5 total deals per year pretty much
PGFHGS

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4118 on: December 22, 2020, 04:48:25 PM »
A quick update MYS finally checked in my Dec 7th package on Sunday.
Now the earliest unchecked-in item is December 11th.

I requested a check immediately after receiving the Dec7th checkin notification email and got the check yesterday. Cash it out and so far no problems.

BTW if each ID in their system represents a box, then they've received 80k+ boxes in December. not sure how many people are checking in boxes over there but the lack of communication is unbearable
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4119 on: December 22, 2020, 04:52:18 PM »
yesterday BFMR checked in my item the same day that UPS delivered it, and issued an ACH to my bank.

Too bad they don't have a lot of deals available