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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4120 on: December 22, 2020, 11:17:44 PM »
A quick update MYS finally checked in my Dec 7th package on Sunday.
Now the earliest unchecked-in item is December 11th.

I requested a check immediately after receiving the Dec7th checkin notification email and got the check yesterday. Cash it out and so far no problems.

BTW if each ID in their system represents a box, then they've received 80k+ boxes in December. not sure how many people are checking in boxes over there but the lack of communication is unbearable
Was it an item with commission? If yes was the correct commission given?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4121 on: December 23, 2020, 03:47:37 PM »
just got a check from MYS literally minutes after i requested it

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4122 on: December 23, 2020, 04:11:25 PM »
USA is now over a month behind to check in items. PM has been the best overall IME.
let's add here- USA also doesn't respond to WhatsApp or email.
Always use an Amex, you'll thank me one day.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4123 on: December 23, 2020, 08:28:33 PM »
just got a check from MYS literally minutes after i requested it
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4124 on: December 24, 2020, 12:33:19 PM »
Just had a package which was delivered on the 11th scanned in. I requested a check, it should arrive today.

It seems that they're about 2 weeks behind in scanning in, but considering that they're issuing checks same day usually, it's still faster than in the past when they had busy seasons.
120 characters? Hmm, I wonder what I could write with 64 characters. Boy, it's gonna be hard to use up 15 characters. W-

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4125 on: December 24, 2020, 03:21:19 PM »
Just had a package which was delivered on the 11th scanned in. I requested a check, it should arrive today.

It seems that they're about 2 weeks behind in scanning in, but considering that they're issuing checks same day usually, it's still faster than in the past when they had busy seasons.
MYS?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4126 on: December 24, 2020, 03:25:08 PM »
PSA: if you're like me and like to print checks to pdf make sure you backup a copy! I got a check from emb about 2 weeks ago and printed it to a pdf on a usb to print at work and I put the usb in and the file was corrupted. I did cut and paste instead of copy...
So now they're trying to get me another copy but I can't print it so they're trying to figure out the problem but for all you out there here's a way to avoid potential heartache.
Still looking for a good MS method :)

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120 characters? Hmm, I wonder what I could write with 64 characters. Boy, it's gonna be hard to use up 15 characters. W-

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4128 on: December 24, 2020, 03:45:35 PM »
Just had a package which was delivered on the 11th scanned in. I requested a check, it should arrive today.

It seems that they're about 2 weeks behind in scanning in, but considering that they're issuing checks same day usually, it's still faster than in the past when they had busy seasons.
Check is now ready!
120 characters? Hmm, I wonder what I could write with 64 characters. Boy, it's gonna be hard to use up 15 characters. W-

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4129 on: December 27, 2020, 11:03:04 AM »
USA is now over a month behind to check in items. PM has been the best overall IME.
and it begins.... (In short) We did not receive your items from over a month ago. Sucks for you. Thanks for reaching out to USA Buying Group.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2020, 11:07:10 AM by Lou Bob »
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4130 on: December 27, 2020, 11:10:19 AM »
 >:(
and it begins.... (In short) We did not receive your items from over a month ago. Sucks for you. Thanks for reaching out to USA Buying Group.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4131 on: December 27, 2020, 01:41:31 PM »
and it begins.... (In short) We did not receive your items from over a month ago. Sucks for you. Thanks for reaching out to USA Buying Group.

Items with tracking info? This is potentially criminal...
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4132 on: December 27, 2020, 01:45:39 PM »
Items with tracking info? This is potentially criminal...
go prove it

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4133 on: December 27, 2020, 02:19:01 PM »
Items with tracking info? This is potentially criminal...

I uploaded tracking to their site.
go prove it
exactly.
Always use an Amex, you'll thank me one day.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4134 on: December 27, 2020, 06:42:52 PM »
Amazon delayed delivery of some of my items and now says it may be lost (after I got the tracking).

They offered me a replacement which I took.

In the email they said that if the first one arrives I should refuse delivery or I should open a return.

I'm not going to know if it arrives or be able to return it. Do I have to worry that they will charge me twice?
120 characters? Hmm, I wonder what I could write with 64 characters. Boy, it's gonna be hard to use up 15 characters. W-

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4135 on: December 27, 2020, 06:48:28 PM »
Amazon delayed delivery of some of my items and now says it may be lost (after I got the tracking).

They offered me a replacement which I took.

In the email they said that if the first one arrives I should refuse delivery or I should open a return.

I'm not going to know if it arrives or be able to return it. Do I have to worry that they will charge me twice?
If it ends up arriving, wouldn't the BG pay you for it?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4136 on: December 27, 2020, 06:58:56 PM »
If it ends up arriving, wouldn't the BG pay you for it?
I suppose so, I guess I'll just have to wait it out.
120 characters? Hmm, I wonder what I could write with 64 characters. Boy, it's gonna be hard to use up 15 characters. W-

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4137 on: December 29, 2020, 03:05:48 PM »
Got a check from closeout 5 minutes after I requested it! 

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4138 on: December 29, 2020, 03:06:44 PM »
Got a check from closeout 5 minutes after I requested it!
Meanwhile emb is taking a while to scan things in... I think I'm switching to closeout...
Still looking for a good MS method :)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4139 on: December 29, 2020, 04:50:59 PM »
meanwhile MYS is back to 5 days waiting on checks
Not for me.
Requested yesterday, got it today.