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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4180 on: February 12, 2021, 12:41:13 AM »
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I tried searching for them on apple's site but they don't come up.

Ok, so maybe Amazon sent the wrong item. How do I fight them, if I don't have the item to return?

The BG said they will try to find my items and then they went silent.
It’s part of the risk of shipping directly to BG.

Take the loss and move on. You could be in for a bigger loss if something doesn’t match up on the return.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4181 on: February 12, 2021, 04:03:54 AM »
Just wanted to share more positive feedback for PM.

PM reached out to me asking if I had everything scanned in in the past 2 months. Apparently I had overlooked a certain delivery and I thought I was paid back everything. I'm really impressed that they reached out to me and were able to fix the problem. I would not expect that to happen with the other larger BGs.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4182 on: February 12, 2021, 11:48:47 AM »
Which BG giving the most for the xbox s?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4183 on: February 12, 2021, 02:58:57 PM »
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I tried searching for them on apple's site but they don't come up.

Ok, so maybe Amazon sent the wrong item. How do I fight them, if I don't have the item to return?

The BG said they will try to find my items and then they went silent.
Take out the s in the beginning GJ9DVGJJJ5X0.


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4184 on: February 12, 2021, 03:04:23 PM »
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I tried searching for them on apple's site but they don't come up.

Ok, so maybe Amazon sent the wrong item. How do I fight them, if I don't have the item to return?

The BG said they will try to find my items and then they went silent.
GJ9DVGJJJ5X0 This one is 38mm. The other one was 42mm.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4185 on: February 12, 2021, 03:07:03 PM »
Thanks!

So it turns out that the BG was correct and Amazon sent the wrong item

But what do you think Amazon will do? Give me the difference without asking for me to return it?

Any suggestions?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4187 on: February 12, 2021, 04:08:53 PM »
I received 3 TabA's instead of Tab S's.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4188 on: February 12, 2021, 04:25:05 PM »
I chatted with them and was transferred to two others. They all said they cannot credit. I need to return the item and reorder.

The last guy disconnected before I got auth for a return label, so I restarted the chat.

This rep offered me 25% refund, which is more than the difference.

So it worked out for me but just another thing to consider before buying for a BG. Especially since they aren't any help at all in these situations.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4189 on: February 13, 2021, 07:13:51 PM »
I chatted with them and was transferred to two others. They all said they cannot credit. I need to return the item and reorder.

The last guy disconnected before I got auth for a return label, so I restarted the chat.

This rep offered me 25% refund, which is more than the difference.

So it worked out for me but just another thing to consider before buying for a BG. Especially since they aren't any help at all in these situations.
In general there's usually better luck via call over chat.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4190 on: February 13, 2021, 08:50:43 PM »
What are DE and BG?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4191 on: February 13, 2021, 08:54:16 PM »
What are DE and BG?
Delaware (no sales tax); Buying Group(s)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4192 on: February 13, 2021, 08:55:02 PM »
What are DE and BG?

BG = Buying Group. DE is presumably Delaware, where there's no sales tax so easier for BGs to have buyers ship to a warehouse/forwarder there.
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« Reply #4193 on: February 13, 2021, 08:55:12 PM »
Delaware (no sales tax); Buying Group(s)

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« Reply #4194 on: February 13, 2021, 09:00:01 PM »
Thanks.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4195 on: February 14, 2021, 08:49:46 AM »
What are DE and BG?
You must have randomly found yourself on this thread  ;)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4196 on: February 14, 2021, 11:09:02 AM »
I was wondering why there was so much activity on a thread about letting people use your credit card.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4197 on: February 14, 2021, 11:42:01 AM »
I was wondering why there was so much activity on a thread about NOT letting people use your credit card.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4198 on: February 14, 2021, 11:50:51 AM »
You must have randomly found yourself on this thread  ;)
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4199 on: February 14, 2021, 05:04:38 PM »
Especially since they aren't any help at all in these situations.
There isnt much they can really do in these situations. The watches get put into a pile along with hundreds of others and is not really possible to go through all of them and find your bar code