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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4320 on: September 23, 2021, 01:19:26 AM »
cannot fight Amazon for lost packages and there have been *too* many lately. Amazon just sends you a a link  to read about FF crap.
Someone is even fighting them for the package that was to delivered in 1st place and getting responses w/ FF crap
People have had success getting refunds.
Call them and use words like “one time exception.”

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4321 on: September 23, 2021, 01:21:58 AM »
From a chat that I’m on.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4322 on: October 17, 2021, 05:26:58 PM »
Any BG still have pick ups in CH?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4323 on: October 19, 2021, 03:20:50 PM »
Any issues with FedEx in OR?
If it benefits even just one fellow DDFer, its worth posting it.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4324 on: October 19, 2021, 03:37:52 PM »
Any BG still have pick ups in CH?

(didnt use it, per their email blast)
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« Reply #4325 on: October 19, 2021, 07:13:32 PM »
(didnt use it, per their email blast)
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IINM they don't come every week, only if you request

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4326 on: October 29, 2021, 01:56:49 AM »
Hey guys, not sure if this is the right thread but i just got into buying for the BG and am trying to figure out if its safe to deposit their ach or checks into santandar or cap 1? obv will stay away from chase. Also, is it risky to send a check directly to discover?

Im using pointsmaker if that makes a difference

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4327 on: October 29, 2021, 02:10:26 AM »
Hey guys, not sure if this is the right thread but i just got into buying for the BG and am trying to figure out if its safe to deposit their ach or checks into santandar or cap 1? obv will stay away from chase. Also, is it risky to send a check directly to discover?

Im using pointsmaker if that makes a difference
I've been depositing checks from PM into Santander for many years without issue.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4328 on: October 29, 2021, 06:39:37 AM »
Hey guys, not sure if this is the right thread but i just got into buying for the BG and am trying to figure out if its safe to deposit their ach or checks into santandar or cap 1? obv will stay away from chase. Also, is it risky to send a check directly to discover?

Im using pointsmaker if that makes a difference
using cap1 360 for years no issues

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4329 on: October 30, 2021, 10:15:43 PM »
Whats wrong with depositing these checks? I've been using Chase.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4330 on: October 30, 2021, 10:22:07 PM »
Whats wrong with depositing these checks? I've been using Chase.
Can't speak from experience as I've been using ally but they chase will shut down pretty quickly especially if afterwards paying a chase CC with it
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4331 on: October 31, 2021, 04:02:41 AM »
I've been depositing checks from PM into Santander for many years without issue.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4332 on: October 31, 2021, 10:40:23 AM »
Whats wrong with depositing these checks? I've been using Chase.

have no idea, no trying to spread panic, but from what i hear in general chase shuts down ppl quickly and associated accounts as well, so if chase decides a BG is sketchy for whatever reason, then their chex may cause issues. again idk the nuts and bolts of it just tryna to protect my accounts.
has anyone directlt paid off cc with their chex?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4333 on: October 31, 2021, 10:42:49 AM »
Dont use chase,they will shut your checking account and all associated cc's.(some cc's may slip through the cracks and get spared) not worth the risk
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4334 on: November 08, 2021, 01:24:22 PM »
New to the whole BG arrangement, excluding for coins. Any recommendations on which are most reliable?

Feel free to PM me if have ones I should stay away from.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4335 on: November 08, 2021, 02:03:46 PM »
New to the whole BG arrangement, excluding for coins. Any recommendations on which are most reliable?

Feel free to PM me if have ones I should stay away from.
I use these all great.
thedealbuyer        ach payments
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4336 on: November 22, 2021, 12:47:14 PM »
Who is offering the most commission for Nintendo Switch w/ Neon Blue & Neon Red Joy-Con + Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Full Game Download) + 3 Month Nintendo Switch Online Individual Membership
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4337 on: November 22, 2021, 01:41:02 PM »
Who is offering the most commission for Nintendo Switch w/ Neon Blue & Neon Red Joy-Con + Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Full Game Download) + 3 Month Nintendo Switch Online Individual Membership
seems everyone is $15

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4338 on: November 22, 2021, 01:43:44 PM »
seems everyone is $15
Buyer's for points is giving$25
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« Reply #4339 on: November 22, 2021, 01:44:22 PM »
Buyer's for points is giving$25
Never heard of them