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Re: Buying Groups Pro & Cons
« Reply #4580 on: January 24, 2022, 02:01:31 PM »
Discussed with a Rav. he will review before posting.

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Re: Buying Groups Pro & Cons
« Reply #4581 on: January 24, 2022, 02:03:22 PM »
Assuming said rewards site is not DDMS, it seems a bit strange to use DDF to gather information for an article on a competing site, doesn't it?

ETA:
You believe, or you asked a rav? I don't have any reason to defend the BGs but if an article would impact people's businesses I think a rav ought to be consulted before publishing...
a site reached out if I'll do it.

I prefer to obviously work with Dans on such an article. but assuming that Dans wouldn't want such an article, as it will also have pros of buying groups & Dans believes it is better not to do it at all.


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Re: Buying Groups Pro & Cons
« Reply #4582 on: January 24, 2022, 04:05:01 PM »
a site reached out if I'll do it.

I prefer to obviously work with Dans on such an article. but assuming that Dans wouldn't want such an article, as it will also have pros of buying groups & Dans believes it is better not to do it at all.

Not so sure about that, as he indirectly "endorses" and accepts advertising dollars from buying groups like PFS to post on his main site (link below).

I call the 2nd sentence an endorsement though others will disagree with me ---- "Note: PFS Buyers Club takes full and sole responsibility for the reimbursement of these coins. That includes thousands of happy participants from numerous past deals posted on DansDeals!"

https://www.dansdeals.com/advertisement/earn-100-profit-purchase-set-3-coins-179-95-mint-get-280-back/

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4583 on: January 24, 2022, 04:06:51 PM »
IMHO coins is a different discussion.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4584 on: January 24, 2022, 04:20:02 PM »
IMHO coins is a different discussion.

why do u think coin BG are any different then electronics BG?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4585 on: January 24, 2022, 04:29:23 PM »
why do u think coin BG are any different then electronics BG?

Coins are a indeed a buying group deal, but they’re low-volume, high-margin, and (at least potentially) one-off. So while some distinctions can be made, I’d say you’re correct that they’re practically the same.

I’m not sure Dan is officially against BGs for everyone always, not his style afaict.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4586 on: January 24, 2022, 04:43:32 PM »
why do u think coin BG are any different then electronics BG?
I would say the main thing is that it gets delivered to your house..
And on the same note as I believe mentioned up thread anything getting delivered to you is way less risky. Obviously you potentially can still not got paid but I wouldn't bring it into the discussion
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4587 on: January 24, 2022, 06:05:23 PM »
Coins are returnable? If yes even less risk

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4588 on: January 25, 2022, 04:29:23 AM »
Coins are different
perhaps more important, PFS took concrete steps to assure Dan of them standing behind their assurances. I don't think any of the electronics groups are up to a similar move...

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4589 on: January 25, 2022, 02:26:23 PM »
Coins are returnable? If yes even less risk

Coins are returnable and there's usually a broad market for them .

Unlike a regular bg it's much less to track, item comes to your house, you send to bg..


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4590 on: January 26, 2022, 09:41:45 AM »
why do u think coin BG are any different then electronics BG?
One question is if @Dan endorses Buying Groups as a safe way to MS which if you followed this thread and another earlier deleted one you'll see he clearly thinks ppl need to know the risks and think of it as if you're handing someone cold hard cash and even if you have the check in hand it's not guaranteed till it actually clears.

Edit: See this from DDMS "If you wouldn’t hand over a briefcase full of cash to someone, then don’t hand over your credit card or goods that you paid for, that you can’t afford to lose."
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

And this:
The only time it was risk free was when PFS put up collateral to match the cost of the original coin deals that they did with us.

I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.

Another aspect is that BG's directly negatively impacts DansDeals as well as regular everyday consumers as items @jj1000  posts or would want to post are bought out by BG's and OOS
« Last Edit: January 26, 2022, 09:56:06 AM by Mo2 »
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4591 on: January 26, 2022, 09:59:26 AM »
And this:
Another aspect is that BG's directly negatively impacts DansDeals as well as regular everyday consumers as items @jj1000  posts or would want to post are bought out by BG's and OOS
They make money on cc referrals - which BGs help facilitate

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4592 on: January 26, 2022, 10:16:31 AM »
They make money on cc referrals - which BGs help facilitate
LOL. I didn't find any BG T&C that states one must get their CC via DD referral
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PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4593 on: January 26, 2022, 10:23:10 AM »
LOL. I didn't find any BG T&C that states one must get their CC via DD referral
Blasphemy - is there anywhere else someone can sign up for a credit card??!? ;)

Was just saying a counterpoint; if DDMS would push a referral with a large spend threshold and say "you can easily hit this using a BG", their referrals would definitely spike and (likely) would counterbalance any negative effect of missing Amazon affiliate clicks.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2022, 10:26:22 AM by Euclid »

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4594 on: January 27, 2022, 06:18:53 PM »
anyone else unable to buy direct from canon for PM deals, even when shipping to your home?

in the past i had no issues, but now they're blocking me just like BB & Dell. i tried different cards and email addresses with no luck. even tried different billing address but that prevented order from being processed.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4595 on: February 02, 2022, 01:18:36 PM »
anyone else unable to buy direct from canon for PM deals, even when shipping to your home?

in the past i had no issues, but now they're blocking me just like BB & Dell. i tried different cards and email addresses with no luck. even tried different billing address but that prevented order from being processed.

same here

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4596 on: February 02, 2022, 01:20:07 PM »
Thinking about getting that new spark card. Any Data points on how capital one treats depositiing checks made to them directly from BG's? Not interested in having 50k came into my bank account

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4597 on: February 02, 2022, 01:29:33 PM »
Thinking about getting that new spark card. Any Data points on how capital one treats depositiing checks made to them directly from BG's? Not interested in having 50k came into my bank account

I will treat them very nicely. PM for my exact address :)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4598 on: February 04, 2022, 01:37:18 AM »
I ordered 2 items for a group and it was delivered 1/25 and 1/26. It took them a week to scan them in, (standard in this situation) but now that they scanned them in today 2/3, they added a 1$ commission. The wats app message with the additional commission being added wasn’t sent out till 1/31….

Am I supposed to/have to tell them? It’s only 2$ but it’s yiddishe gelt……(theirs not mine)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4599 on: February 04, 2022, 01:38:21 AM »
I ordered 2 items for a group and it was delivered 1/25 and 1/26. It took them a week to scan them in, (standard in this situation) but now that they scanned them in today 2/3, they added a 1$ commission. The wats app message with the additional commission being added wasn’t sent out till 1/31….

Am I supposed to/have to tell them? It’s only 2$ but it’s yiddishe gelt……(theirs not mine)
Probably let you keep it