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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4640 on: March 06, 2022, 05:23:06 PM »
Anyone that doesn't want to name names in public my PM works.  :)
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4641 on: March 06, 2022, 08:06:37 PM »
A pitty you didn't say this in the C. Walder thread 😉
I tried my best to stay far away from there

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4642 on: March 06, 2022, 09:57:46 PM »
I Think Its safe to say that EMB is the best group out there right now, even though there havent been a tone of deals lately.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4643 on: March 06, 2022, 10:11:30 PM »
I Think Its safe to say that EMB is the best group out there right now, even though there havent been a tone of deals lately.
The deal buyer and Njcloseout are up there as well

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4644 on: March 07, 2022, 02:06:53 PM »
Anyone know what happened to pinnacle?
(feel free to pm me)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4645 on: March 10, 2022, 10:42:19 AM »
seems like its been a rough Q1 moving product, some big groups getting lousy, and one really big group going to straight scummy/scammy moves.

BE CAREFUL out there


any update on this?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4646 on: March 10, 2022, 10:46:56 AM »
Anyone know what happened to pinnacle?
(feel free to pm me)
What happened?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4647 on: March 10, 2022, 10:48:28 AM »
any update on this?
Don't expect an update...at least for a bit, only possible update is-
A. A group goes under (or gets wiped out, but manages to stay above water)
B. The market turns around and everyone could flip all the product and we go back to what groups were a year ago.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4648 on: March 10, 2022, 11:01:48 AM »
Now not a good time to start with BG's?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4649 on: March 10, 2022, 12:03:43 PM »
Now not a good time to start with BG's?
barely any deals

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4650 on: March 11, 2022, 05:45:09 PM »
Anyone that doesn't want to name names in public my PM works.  :)

i dont get this issue that people cant post negative feedback. you're not commenting on a specific person, merely on a company.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4651 on: March 11, 2022, 09:39:49 PM »
I can vouch for TDB and CloseoutNJ both have always been very fast with check in and payments and customer support is very good also.

Interested in feedback about buyersforpoints.com

Have tried MYS but check in and payments were way to slow!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4652 on: March 12, 2022, 09:27:04 PM »
I can vouch for TDB and CloseoutNJ both have always been very fast with check in and payments and customer support is very good also.

Interested in feedback about buyersforpoints.com

Have tried MYS but check in and payments were way to slow!

is CloseoutNJ the same as Njcloseout?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4653 on: March 12, 2022, 10:07:17 PM »
is CloseoutNJ the same as Njcloseout?
yea

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4654 on: March 14, 2022, 08:58:17 AM »
I can vouch for TDB and CloseoutNJ both have always been very fast with check in and payments and customer support is very good also.

Interested in feedback about buyersforpoints.com

Have tried MYS but check in and payments were way to slow!

And they tend to have a recurring issue where delivered boxes are missing the item inside.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4655 on: March 16, 2022, 10:49:18 AM »
Who are the owners of the buying groups:
PM
EMB
Closeout

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4656 on: March 16, 2022, 10:51:26 AM »
and USA

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4657 on: March 16, 2022, 12:04:24 PM »
anyone have recent good/bad experience with buyformeretail?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4658 on: March 16, 2022, 01:42:01 PM »
i had one ever (so far) buy for them and it was quick and smooth

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #4659 on: March 16, 2022, 01:44:09 PM »
anyone have recent good/bad experience with buyformeretail?
Amazing experience, a decent amount of items last few weeks.

Fast check in (but must add tracking per item) & payment sent that day